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Sapa to Ha Giang by motorbike on borders & back-roads, Vietnam

Borders & Back-Roads: Sapa to Ha Giang by Motorbike

Last updated October 2018 | Words and photos by Vietnam Coracle | 150 comments

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Sapa and Ha Giang are gateways to the outstanding mountain scenery of Vietnam’s northwest and extreme north respectively. But the journey between these two mountain towns is just as thrilling as the landscape which lies beyond them. Connecting two of the most mountainous provinces in the country (Lào Cai and Hà Giang), this motorbike route straddles the Chinese border, carving a meandering course over mountain ranges and along river valleys. Largely on small roads that have only recently been blasted out of the mountainsides, this road trip is a slow crawl through some of the remotest parts of Vietnam. Dramatic scenery, fascinating border towns, ethnic minority markets, and lush farmland abound. This is a route to be taken slowly – there’s hardly a kilometre without a hairpin bend – and with plenty of time to allow for unforeseen circumstances, such as bad weather and landslides, which regularly block the way. This road trip is the perfect link for riders wanting to connect the northwest with the extreme north, or as an alternative to, or extension of, the increasingly popular Ha Giang Loop.

Sapa to Ha Giang by motorbike on borders & back-roads, Vietnam

Riding from Sapa to Ha Giang along back-roads close to the Chinese border is an epic & scenic road trip

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GUIDE: SAPA TO HA GIANG BORDER ROUTE


ROAD TRIP DETAILS:

  • Total Distance: 355km/480km/235km (one-way)
  • Duration: 2-5 days
  • Route: hugging the Chinese border on back-roads from Sapa to Ha Giang [MAP]
  • Road Conditions: paved back-roads, some rough & gravel sections, light traffic
  • Scenery: mountains, gorges, borderlands, terraced rice fields, minority villages


ROAD TRIP CONTENTS:

  • SECTION 1: SapaMuong Khuong (via Road QL4D): 85km
  • SECTION 2Muong KhuongSi Ma CaiBac Ha (Chinese border route): 90km
  • SECTION 3Bac HaXin Man (direct/via Pho Rang): 40km/165km
  • SECTION 4Xin ManHoang Su PhiHa Giang (plus side routes)140km

ABOUT THIS ROUTE:

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On my map below, I’ve plotted three routes between Sapa and Ha Giang. The Border Route (the blue line: 355km) follows the remote Chinese border; the Alternative Route (the red line: 480km) offers a scenic detour before linking back up with the Border Route; and the Direct Route (the green line: 235km) stays mostly on main roads, missing out much of the remote and spectacular scenery on the other two routes. I’ve also included several side routes (the pinkish lines), but there are many other scenic back-roads to explore if you have the time, and preferably a good, off-road motorbike. I’ve written this guide in 4 sections, going from west to east from Sapa to Ha Giang following the Border Route (the blue line). Note that each section doesn’t necessarily correspond to one day on the road. I’d recommend spending between 2-5 days on this route, depending on weather and road conditions. Any of the three routes marked on my map can be ridden in either direction, or can be turned into a loop by going out on one and returning on another. Note that all three routes suffer from landslides after heavy rains, and ongoing roadworks which can slow you down considerably. I’ve marked specific rough road sections on my map as best I can. If possible, try to time your trip to coincide with a weekend, as all the towns on this route have lively markets, which draw colourfully-dressed ethnic minorities from across the region. Weather is best in spring and autumn, the latter coinciding with the bright colours of the rice harvest. September is my favourite month.


ROUTE MAP:

Sapa→Muong Khuong→Bac Ha→Xin Man→Hoang Su Phi→Ha Giang

Border Route: 355km | Alternative Route: 480km | Direct Route: 235km


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SECTION 1

Route: SapaMuong Khuong (via Road QL4D) | Distance: 85km [MAP]

The first section of this road trip is all on Road QL4D, which winds northeast of Sapa, down into the Red River valley to Lao Cai, on the Chinese border, and then up a long mountain pass to the little visited outpost of Muong Khoung.

Leave the mountain resort town of Sapa by way of the steep and meandering Road QL4D. Sapa is currently a bit of a tourist trap and a building site, so it’s a relief to leave the town and get onto the open road with some sensational views of the surrounding scenery. In less than an hour, the scenic, winding road takes you down to the Red River valley, which is noticeably warmer (and a lot less cloudy) than Sapa.

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View of Sapa & surrounding mountains, northern Vietnam

Leave the mountain resort town of Sapa & wind down to the Red River valley on Road QL4D

The dusty but busy town of Lao Cai sits right on the Chinese border. It’s a major gateway for trade between the two countries, especially now that the new Expressway CT05 has opened, linking Lao Cai with Hanoi. If you have time, head along the river to the main border gate with China. There’s a strangely compelling atmosphere here, as informal trade passes from country to country, oftentimes on the backs of bicycles pushed across the border by older women. Coc Leu Market is a fascinating place to browse some of the products – both Vietnamese and Chinese – that pass through this border region. And, as with all Vietnamese towns, exploring the backstreets of Lao Cai can lead to some rewarding street food experiences, and discoveries of leafy, local spots. Lao Cai is also home to the train station where you can send your motorbike to/from Hanoi. There are lots of mini-hotels around the station: Kim Cuong Hotel [BOOK HERE] is where I stayed and is good value for money.

Street food in Lao Cai city, northern Vietnam

Lao Cai is an interesting city & a major border gate to China. It’s back streets are good for street food

Shoot across the muddy waters of the Red River and head northeast out of Lao Cai. After around 10km, turn left (due north) and continue on Road QL4D towards Muong Khuong. The early stages of this road pass through acres of pineapple plantations, which, although they sound exotic, don’t actually look that appealing when planted in hundreds or thousands of rows across the hillsides. The road surface has recently been upgraded on this route, but landslides can badly graze the tarmac in the rainy season, and trucks ply this route to and from plantations and remote border crossings. However, after 20km the road starts to climb steeply, and all the traffic (and pineapples) fade away. The scenery opens up to reveal the pleats and folds of lush valleys, their little rivers chiseling out a course between sloping mountains. Then Road QL4D aims skyward, not stopping until it’s over 1,000m high. Waterfalls and streams gurgle by the roadside, inviting you to wash the dust from your face, before gliding along the last 10km – a spectacular ride next to a terrifying drop – to Muong Khuong town. Throughout the ride, China is visible just over the mountains to the west.

Note: If you want to take the Direct Route (the green line) to Ha Giang, stay on Road QL170 (also marked as AH14) out of Lao Cai, due southeast towards Pho Rang [View Map].

Road QL4D to Muong Khuong, northern Vietnam

Road QL4D to Muong Khuong is really steep will excellent views over the valleys towards China

Just a few kilometres from the Chinese border, Muong Khuong is a strange and isolated place. Hemmed in on all sides by a ring of limestone pinnacles, it’s a mythical setting for a rather ugly town. Ugly, but interesting. Muong Khuong was a remote outpost of French Indochina, and when I first visited there were still a few crumbling buildings left from that era. (However, on my most recent visit, in 2018, I couldn’t find any trace of the old structures, which means they’ve been demolished.) Much of the town was destroyed during the 1979 border war between Vietnam and China. Muong Khuong has a good market on weekends that attracts many of the ethnic minority groups living in the vicinity. A couple of OK nhà nghỉ (local guest houses) can be found on the high street, but the newly opened Muong Khuong Hotel (Tel: 0 166 233 6999; 200,000-350,000vnđ) is a much better option. There’s not much food available, but you can still find a few empty rice eateries (quán cơm) and cafes along the main drag. Although I wouldn’t linger long in Muong Khuong, I do find it a fascinating place to be for a night.

Muong Khuong town, Lao Cai Province, northern Vietnam

Muong Khuong is a fairly ugly town in a dramatic & mysterious location, surrounded by limestone pillars

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Route: Muong KhuongSi Ma CaiBac Ha (Chinese border route) | Distance: 90km [MAP]

The journey between Muong Khuong and Bac Ha, echoing the Chinese border for much of the way, is only 90km, but it can take all day because the roads are extremely mountainous and the views are superb. Connecting dozens of small minority hamlets and remote army outposts, Road DT153 climbs up and down several mountains and above deep river gorges, before heading south through the strange settlement of Si Ma Cai and on to the famous market town of Bac Ha.

Waterfall by Road DT153, Lao Cai Province, Vietnam

The border route from Muong Khuong to Bac Ha via Si Ma Cai is spectacular & remote

It’s a good idea to start reasonably early in the morning from Muong Khuong. Take Road DT153 northeast out of town. Almost immediately the road carves a path along the edge of a high precipice; above waterfalls, terraced rice fields, and tiny hamlets far down in the valley below. Limestone peaks surround the scene, acting like the crenulated ramparts of a medieval castle, enclosing the valley and keeping it safe. Most of this section of road was only paved in the last few years, and already there are regular landslides that cover the road surface in boulders and earth. Expect some rough sections here and there, and perhaps landslides if there’s been heavy rain recently. But, if you’re lucky enough to have good weather, it’s one of the most dramatic and remote rides in the country.

Terraced rice fields, Lao Cai Province, Vietnam

The scenery along Road DT153 as it follows the Chinese border north of Muong Khuong is marvellous

At Pha Long, the northern-most point of this route, there’s a lively, rustic market on weekends, which benefits from a nearby Chinese border crossing that appears to be very fluid. You’ll find Chinese toys, beer, and rice liquor (consumed in great quantities from the early morning onwards) on sale here. From Pha Long the road turns south, following the course of the My Phu River, along a spectacular valley dominated by limestone mountains. A deep gorge forms the Vietnam-China border, which the road navigates with perilous switchbacks above sheer drops of hundreds of feet. It’s very apparent that, on the Vietnamese side, all land is cultivated – from the river banks to the mountaintops – whereas, on the Chinese side, there’s hardly any sign of human activity: no roads, fields or buildings, just a bare mountain wall. Apart from the great views, I love the strange feeling that comes from being so close to the border of a country as big (and powerful) as China.

Motorbiking the Vietnam-China border, Lao Cai Province, Vietnam

A deep river gorge forms the border between Vietnam and China: it’s a fascinating sight

Leaving the Chinese border behind, Road DT153 corkscrews over several spectacular passes before crossing the Chay River (a great waterway that’s a continual presence on this road trip) before climbing again to reach the alpine settlement of Si Ma Cai. Set on a lovely crest of land surrounded by steep peaks reaching over 2,000m, Si Ma Cai is a strange town in the middle of nowhere. The original village is no more than a crossroads, but there’s now a vast new town to the south with wide boulevards, empty squares, and over-sized government buildings. Massive construction – to prevent landslides and flooding – is ongoing. If you feel like stopping for the night, there’s a decent guest house right at the town’s crossroads: Hong Nhung Hotel (tel: 0203 796 846; 200,000-400,000vnđ). Several good, local rice eateries offer hearty mountain dishes for lunch, and there’s surprisingly good coffee and fast food snacks at Coffee Moc.

Rice terraces & hamlet, Lao Cai Province, Vietnam

Si Ma Cai is a strange little town in the middle of nowhere surrounded by lush alpine scenery

The ascent out of Si Ma Cai is so steep that some motorbikes may struggle if there’s a passenger on the back. It can get very cold at the top (even in summer), but the views are outstanding once again as Road DT153 continues south towards Bac Ha. It’s interesting to note that, although this is one of the more remote parts of Vietnam, the population density is surprisingly high. There’s always some activity going on in this big landscape: people working in the fields, walking along paths to isolated homes on the mountainsides, herding cattle, chopping wood in the forests. Most of the population here are from Vietnam’s ethnic minorities. With over 50 different ethnic groups, these minorities only make up about 15% of the country’s population, but they are concentrated in highland areas, especially in the north. Most minority people make their living from agriculture. Such is the density in Lào Cai Province that there’s hardly any ‘unused’ land: the entire landscape is cultivated. Minority children are always excited to see foreigners. It’s a good idea to carry some snack food with you to offer these kids (as an alternative to money) and put wide smiles on their faces. Between Si Ma Cai and Bac Ha, the lively minority market of Can Cau is bursting at the seams on weekends.

Children near Bac Ha, Lao Cai Province, Vietnam

The majority of the population in this area are from Vietnam’s many & diverse ethnic minorities

Not far beyond Can Cau market, Road DT153 meets Lung Phin junction. This is the turning (due east) for the direct route to Xin Man, but it’s worth continuing another 15 minutes or so further south on DT153 for a night in Bac Ha first, especially if you’re in time for the weekend. Descending sharply through pine trees, the town of Bac Ha comes into view, nestled in a valley. Bac Ha’s Sunday Market has become a favourite attraction for foreign and domestic tourists alike. Every weekend, thousands of minority people – the women all dressed in brightly coloured traditional clothing – make the long journey on foot from their homes in mountain villages to the market. The market really is quite a spectacle. There’s a hot food section where men eat delicious bowls of noodles, smoke bamboo pipes, and consume large amounts of potent local grain liquor. Meanwhile, the women wander through the market’s wide spread of stalls, buying clothes, food, and supplies for the week ahead. It’s a lively, vibrant market with lots to see. However, try to get here as early as possible because, from about 9.30am, hundreds of tourists arrive on buses, armed with big SLR cameras with giant detachable zooms, that many proceed to stick in minority women’s faces: suddenly it feels more like a zoo than a market. (For more about Bac Ha Sunday Market read my full guide HERE.)

There are plenty of places to stay in Bac Ha. I like the Nhat Quang Hotel (tel: 0214 3800 689; 200,000-500,000vnđ a night) on the main square, just a stroll away from the market, but there are many more to choose from, some of which you can browse here. The town has lots of local rice eateries.

Bac Ha Sunday Market, Lao Cai Province, Vietnam

Bac Ha is famous for its colourful Sunday Market: a sight to behold, despite the arrival of mass tourism

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Route: Bac HaXin Man (direct or via Pho Rang) | Distance: 40km or 165km [MAP]

There are two very different routes between Bac Ha and Xin Man (also known as Coc Pai). The direct route (the blue line) is only 40km, taking a scenic road due northeast of Bac Ha near the Chinese border, all of which has recently been repaved (after years of road works). The indirect route (the red line) is much longer (165km), but also very scenic. However, the indirect route suffers from rough road sections and landslides. In my opinion, if the weather is bad there’s no reason to take the indirect route. But in dry conditions most bikes and riders should be able to make it, providing they take it slowly and carefully. I’ve tried to mark the rough road sections on my map as best I can. You’ll have to make the decision yourself when you get there, but either way, it’s another day of beautiful landscapes.

The road to Xin Man, northern Vietnam

There are two routes between Bac Ha & Xin Man: one short, one long: both are exceptionally beautiful


Direct Route: Bac Ha to Xin Man via Lung Phin & the Chinese border

Head north of Bac Ha on Road DT153, retracing the last 10km of the previous day’s ride, until you meet the junction at Lung Phin. Turn right (due northeast) onto the direct route to Xin Man. The road is in excellent condition for most of its 30km length. The first half meanders around the mountainsides with lovely views down over terraced rice fields and the high peaks in China, just a few kilometres to the north.

Admiring the view on the direct route to Xin Man, Vietnam

The direct route to Xin Man follows close to the Chinese border with grand views across deep gorges

The second half to Xin Man, after crossing the provincial border to Ha Giang, is even more spectacular, passing above a steep gorge on the Chinese border, before descending sharply via a series of severe switchbacks to Xin Man. For many years, this road was only accessible to experienced riders with suitable off-road bikes; now anyone can enjoy it.

The road to Xin Man, northern Vietnam

The last 10km to Xin Man are extremely mountainous with lots of switchbacks & sections of rough road

The town of Xin Man sprawls around a steep outcrop, high above the valley. It’s a dramatic setting, and the town’s streets reflect the contours of the land it sits on: curving and swirling above the Chay River. Xin Man is very remote. Behind the town are large limestone cliffs and mountains, beyond which is China. There are only three access roads to Xin Man, all of which are subject to regular landslides: it’s hours from any significant settlement. In nice weather, the scenery is sublime; in bad weather, it’s a grim, end-of-the-world kind of place. There’s a relative glut of accommodation, in the form of mini-hotels and local guest houses (nhà nghỉ), on Xin Man’s main street. I like the large, clean rooms with balconies at Ngoc Son Motel (tel: 0219 3836 470; 200,000-400,000vnđ). There are some standard cơm phở (rice and noodle) eateries serving hearty meals just around the corner. On weekends there’s a large market, and even on weekdays this is a good place for a local breakfast of noodle soup.

Rice terraces near Xin Man, northern Vietnam

Xin Man is a very remote town built on a steep slope surrounded by mountains & fields

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Indirect Route: Bac Ha to Xin Man via Pho Ranh & Quang Binh

The indirect route between Bac Ha and Xin Man (the red line) is 165km, so start early if you want to complete it in one day. Leave Bac Ha on Road DT153 heading south. A long and scenic mountain pass leads all the way down to the Red River valley, where it joins Highway QL70 (also marked as AH14). Turn left (due southeast) onto the highway and continue along the lush valley for 40km to the crossroads town of Pho Rang. Now that the new Expressway CT05 (on the opposite side of the Red River) takes most of the heavy traffic, Highway QL70 is a fairly pleasant ride through fruit plantations and hamlets of stilt houses. Pho Rang’s rice eateries make a convenient lunch, and there are also guest houses here if you need to stop for the night.

Rice terraces on the road to Xin Man, Ha Giang, Vietnam

The main road from Bac Ha to Pho Rang runs along the Red River valley with lush landscapes

From Pho Rang, head north on Road QL279. After crossing a bridge over the Chay River, this excellent road leads through a peaceful, verdant landscape, characterized by rice fields, different varieties of palm tree, and attractive rural hamlets clustered around clear rivers. After 25km the road bends east, entering Vietnam’s northern-most province, Ha Giang. Unfortunately, the border between provinces is made apparent by the immediate deterioration of the road surface. Smack on the provincial border asphalt turns to mud and rocks: welcome to Ha Giang. It only lasts for 10km until the next turn off at Quang Binh village (also known as Yen Binh), but in wet conditions this section of rough road can be quite challenging. At Quang Binh there are some places to eat, and even one or two local guest houses if you get stuck here.

Dirt road conditions, Phong Rang to Xin Man, Vietnam

At the provincial border between Lao Cai & Ha Giang on Road QL279 road conditions deteriorate

From Quang Binh, turn due north on Road DT178. This is a long, meandering, and utterly beautiful road, leading over a large reservoir, through a gorgeous valley, up a mountain, and down the other side to Xin Man town, near the Chinese border. In good weather, this back-road is my favourite part of this road trip: rich and verdant, with cascades of terraced rice fields, surrounded by high, forested mountains, spouting waterfalls which run into streams leading through pretty villages of wood-and-thatch homes, However, road conditions have worsened in the last few years: several sections are under repairs, and others are prone to landslides. Expect some rough sections and delays, especially if there’s been a lot of rain.

Road DT178 to Xin Man, Ha Giang Province, Vietnam

Road DT178 passes glorious landscapes, meandering through valleys, over mountains & by waterfalls

On Road DT178, there are several homestays near Na Tri village which are well worth stopping for a night. But, if the sun is shining, I’d continue on up the spectacular mountain pass leading straight over the Chay River Massif. At times this pass is so steep that all vehicles struggle against the gradient. Near the summit the road surface can be pretty bad, but the scenery makes up for it. The air is thin and cool at the top, and the views north and south are very grand indeed.

Terraced rice fields on the road to Xin Man, Ha Giang, Vietnam

Terraced rice fields cascade down the hillsides near Na Tri, where there are several homestays

Descending the other side through thick forest there’s a tree by the roadside with a small altar next to it. A plaque announces that this tree is over 500 years old. A few minutes further down is Tien Waterfall (thác Tiên). Reached via steep steps through a bamboo forest, this is a beautiful cascade of blue water fresh off the mountains. You can swim in the (cold) pool below the falls. There’s a small cafe at the entrance where you can also stay the night, but rooms are a bit musty.

Thac Tien Waterfall, Xin Man, Ha Giang, Vietnam

Tien Waterfall, a clear, fresh & cold cascade of mountain water, is near the top of a high pass

The long descent to Xin Man town offers terrific views of mountains receding into the distance (which is Chinese territory) in shades of purple and blue. The road echoes the course of mountain streams, each one becoming increasingly bloated on the way down as they’re joined by other waterways. During harvest time (September-October) the hillsides are covered in bright yellow rice terraces. Children wave from the roadside, buffalo carry wooden carts full of hay, and men and women are busy working in the fields. It’s a wonderful sight and one that you wouldn’t see if you took the direct route between Bac Ha and Xin Man.

Road DT178 to Xin Man, Ha Giang Province, Vietnam

Descending to Xin Man, distant ridges of Chinese mountains recede to the horizon in shades of purple

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Route: Xin ManHoang Su PhiHa Giang (plus side routes) | Distance: 140km [MAP]

The journey from Xin Man to Ha Giang is spectacular. It follows the course of two rivers: First, the rarely used Road DT178 clings to the valley of the Chay River, heading east then south to join Highway QL2, which leads north along the Lo River towards China, stopping 20km short of the border, at Ha Giang, the provincial capital. There are also several potential side routes.

The Chay River Valley, Ha Giang Province, Vietnam

The spectacular ride between Xin Man, Hoang Su Phi & Ha Giang follows two rivers: the Chay & the Lo

Head east out of Xin Man on Road DT178 as it crosses an impressive bridge linking two high precipices. It’s 100km from Xin Man to the junction with Highway QL2, with the town of Hoang Su Phi in the middle. The entire length is very mountainous, very scenic, and very prone to landslides after heavy rains. Bear this in mind, because, if the weather has been bad, you may be forced to wait while the road is cleared. Either way, progress is quite slow, partly because the road is very narrow, and partly because the scenery is so eye-catching that you’ll want to stop frequently. From Xin Man to Hoang Su Phi (also known at Vinh Quang) Road DT178 glides high above the galloping cascades of the Chay River. However, since several dams have been constructed on the waterway, the river level fluctuates, so that sometimes the road rides high above the water, but at other times the road is flush with the water level. To the north is a wall of mountains, the other side of which is China. It’s a really dramatic ride all the way to Hoang Su Phi, which appears out of the mist.

Riding along the Chay River valley, Road DT178, Hoang Su Phi, Ha Giang

Riding along the narrow & landslide-prone Road DT178, high above the Chay River

The isolated town of Hoang Su Phi sits in a steep valley. Like Xin Man, its streets are incredibly windy and steep. Despite its dramatic location, on a rainy, grey day it can feel very grim indeed. It’s a convenient lunch or overnight stop between Xin Man and Ha Giang. A couple of nhà nghỉ (guest houses) and mini-hotels line the high-street, including Tay Con Linh Hotel (tel: 0219 6558 888) and Hoang An Hotel (tel: 0 219 3731 133), both of which are around 200,000vnd a night. Food is also available at the rice eateries and there’s a lively market.

Lunch in Hoang Su Phi, Ha Giang Province, Vietnam

Hoang Su Phi is an isolated town halfway between Xin Man & QL2: it’s a good lunch or overnight stop

From Hoang Su Phi, it’s possible to attempt a spectacular but challenging mini-loop (the pinkish line), which goes right to the summit of Kiou Leou Ti Mountain. This is a great ride, but it’s a full day in the saddle, and road conditions can be pretty bad: don’t attempt it unless you have plenty of experience, or at least a bike that’s capable in muddy, off-road conditions.

The Kiou Teou Ti Loop, Hoang Su Phi, Ha Giang, Vietnam

The Kiou Leou Ti Loop is a scenic side route from Hoang Su Phi, but conditions can be challenging

From Hoang Su Phi, Road DT177 heads due southeast. If anything, the scenery on this section, all the way to the junction with Highway QL2, is even better than the rest of the road trip. After following a river valley, two high passes – called Heaven’s Gate Pass 1 and 2 – zigzag up through terraced rice and tea plantations. The tea is a special variety with a white flower, called chè shan tuyết (snowy mountain tea). Look out for roadside shacks selling and serving it. The second Heaven’s Gate Pass is the more thrilling of the two. Views over terraced crops, waterfalls, and rivers are majestic. Even in the ghostly mist that often hangs over the pass, it’s a sublime ride. Several regions of Vietnam are famous for their terraced rice fields: this is one of them, and it’s easy to see the attraction.

Rice terraces on Road DT177, Hoang Su Phi, Ha Giang, Vietnam

Between Hoang Su Phi & QL2, two epic passes offer incredible views over terraced rice fields

A worthwhile side route (the pinkish line), due west of Road DT177, makes a detour over yet more extraordinary mountain passes, to Thong Nguyen. Here, you can stay in the cosy, comfortable, and remote Panhou Village Resort [BOOK HERE]. Or, if your budget doesn’t stretch that, try the Thong Nguyen Guest House instead (tel: 097 880 17 89; 200,000vnd). The roads here are paved but narrow and potholed. There are many other little lanes that are well worth exploring if you have time.

Crossing the bridge to Panhou Village Resort, Ha Giang, Vietnam

Riding over the wooden bridge to Panhou Village Resort, a scenic side route from Road DT177

Back on Road DT177, after a long and winding descent through marvellous landscape, the road meets Highway QL2. From here it’s a smooth and quick ride along a wide, flat road surface for 40km, due north along the Lo River to Ha Giang.

Rice terraces on Road DT177, Hoang Su Phi, Ha Giang, Vietnam

Yet more fabulous landscapes line Road DT177 as it makes its final descent to meet Highway QL2

Built on the banks of the Lo River, Ha Giang has wide roads, lots of rice eateries, a large market, and lots of accommodation options. For example, River Queen Guest House has clean, new rooms, or try the familiar Western backpacker vibes of Ha Giang Backpacker Hostel, including dorms, or the Vietnamese backpacker vibes of Ong Vang Hostel, which has pod-like rooms by the river, or the fancier budget option of Tiamo Hotel. Other notable cheapies are Kiki’s House Hostel, Bong Ha Giang Hostel, and QT Hostel (owned by the excellent QT Motorbikes). All of the above run from $5-$15 a night, representing very good value for money. Another good choice, especially at the end of this long road trip, is to ‘treat yourself’ to the relative luxury of Truong Xuan Resort, which has bungalows in lush surroundings on the edge of town ($30). Remember, Ha Giang is just the beginning of another great road trip: The Extreme North Loop.

Ha Giang City, northern Vietnam

Ha Giang has lots of food & sleeping options for a night, before heading off on the Extreme North Loop

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  1. Claire says:
    October 28, 2024 at 9:41 AM

    Hi, we just completed a motorbike trip inspired from this itinerary~ due to Yagi typhoon we found the roads conditions not as nice as we are used to in North Vietnam.
    Riding from Lao Cai to Bac Ha was easy, wide paved roads still in very good condition.
    However from Bac Ha to Lam Dong (road DT178) we had to ride on long muddy stretches, it was very slippery and even preferable to get off the bike (for the passenger). We then ride less kilometers than we had planed to. However landscapes were so beautiful, especially we got lucky with a sunny weather and blue sky all along the trip!

    1. Tom says:
      October 30, 2024 at 4:26 AM

      Hi Claire,

      Thanks for the trip report and road updates. Yes, DT178 has been undergoing repairs for several years now. I’m sure the typhoon made conditions worse and has slowed progress, but it won’t be long before things get better. That road project will be finished soon, and Vietnam is amazingly quick at getting infrastructure back to operating order after storms.

      Best,

      Tom

  2. Sue says:
    October 22, 2024 at 1:22 PM

    Just completed Sapa via direct route to Bac Ha ( easy) and on to direct route to Xin Man, Hoang Su Phi distinct and on to Ha Giang.
    We ventured onto the pinkish route from HSP to bac Luoc … challenging but doable and overnighted at Sky View … then the adventure began .. we reached dt177 via Cam Dich ( pink route all good) . Once we summitted the second pass .. we got puncture No 1. Somehow Got help and carried on only to get a second puncture 10km further on) 3km from QL2 junction to HG… that was a long walk nurturing a wounded bike. Replaced inner tube and tyre this time … once bitten twice shy !!
    The dt177 from Cam Dich to QL2 whilst spectacular was not bike friendly in places ! The typhoon took its toll..
    thnx Tom for your great map routes. Once we reach Cao Bang, I will donate ! Your maps and guidance have already taken us to some amazing locations !
    NB we are on our 60’s and were on little Honda 110’s and they got through some major mud !!

    1. Tom says:
      October 23, 2024 at 6:09 AM

      Hi Sue,

      Thank you for the trip report and road updates. DT177 has been undergoing major repairs for a couple of years now. It shouldn’t be too long before it’s completed.

      Sorry about your punctures – I hate getting them. But over the last 10 years I’ve been using tubeless tyres, and since then I hardly ever get a puncture.

      I hope you enjoy the rest of your road trip and that the weather is fine – there should still be lots of good riding and scenery ahead of you.

      Best,

      Tom

  3. Bente says:
    June 8, 2024 at 1:32 AM

    Hi!

    The rough road on QL279 marked on the map isn’t rough anymore! I drove it a few days ago and its fully paved and in pretty good condition.
    Hope this helps anyone!0

    1. Tom says:
      June 11, 2024 at 10:58 AM

      Hi Bente,

      Thank you for this useful update.

      Best,

      Tom

  4. 50000miles says:
    May 29, 2024 at 9:02 AM

    Currently sitting on the side of the Red route (DT178) near Lúng Chún, riding north, just went through 15km of rough construction and I am told there is 12KM more. I do not recommend this stretch.

    1. Tom says:
      May 29, 2024 at 9:35 AM

      Hi,

      Thanks for the road report. Hopefully it’ll just be a matter of months before those road works are finished. They’ve been upgrading a lot of the roads in that region over the last year or two.

      Best,

      Tom

  5. Frank says:
    April 15, 2024 at 8:37 AM

    Hi all, I have finished the Sapa-Ha Giang tour and would like to share my impressions. I first took the alternative route to Bac Ha and then continued on the Border Route. The roads from Sapa to Hoang Su Phi are all in good condition, except perhaps for the small stretch from Bac Ha to the Lung Phin junction. I had read bad things about the DT 177, so today I looked for alternatives, but found none, so I took the DT177. The first 12 km from HSP are new, then a 7 km long, hard section begins. When you reach the Heavens Gate Pass, the road becomes “normal” again and is wonderful to drive. Unfortunately, 17 km before you turn onto the QL2, a second, 10 km long, rough section begins. In dry weather, the DT177 is not a children’s birthday party, as we say in Germany, but it is also not a mission impossible, not even for a 65-year-old man. Finally, a few words about Bac Ha. When I arrived there on a Saturday afternoon, the buses full of tourists mentioned above were already there. The town was full, as were the hotels like the Nhat Quang (prices now from 500k to 1,000k). And the market? Nothing special (anymore) in my eyes. I don’t think it’s worth staying a night in Bac Ha just for the market. But that’s a matter of taste, of course. Best regards Frank

    1. Tom says:
      April 16, 2024 at 1:51 AM

      Hi Frank,

      Thank you for your trip report and updates on road conditions on this route. It’s good to know that they’re still making progress on DT177 repairs, and surely it’s just a matter of months before that’s finished. And, yes, I tend to agree about Bac Ha Market – it’s a bit of a tourist trap and there are better local markets to visit in the region.

      Best,

      Tom

  6. Nicolas L says:
    March 5, 2024 at 1:34 PM

    Hi all!

    I’m planning a north east trip for April with a friend. We’re looking to do Lao Cai to Hoang Su Phi Lodge in one day via Bac Ha/Xin Man/HSP Dt177 etc…

    Reading the below updates make me re-consider my plans slightly.

    April should be in the at the end of the dry season which should help, but still, if the DT177 is completely torn up, not sure I’m game for 60+ km of bad roads… Could take hours.

    So if anyone has any update on the DT177 road conditions in the coming weeks, I’m all ears :).

    If not, I might try my luck on DT178 then DT197b via the backroads all the way to Hoang Su Phi Lodge.

    Adventure 🙂

    1. Tom says:
      March 6, 2024 at 5:11 AM

      Hi Nicolas,

      I would expect that there will still be road works on DT177 in April 2024, however if the weather is dry it would probably not be so difficult to ride.

      Best,

      Tom

      1. Nicolas says:
        March 6, 2024 at 12:14 AM

        Thanks Tom!

        I’ve found quite a few videos on youtube on the state of DT177, all dated 2023… And boy oh boy ahha.

        I think I’ll decide on the day off, asking locals, checking the weather etc.

        If not dry, this is 60km of hell. 🙂

      2. Nicolas says:
        March 6, 2024 at 7:26 AM

        Oh and as an alternative, what do you think about using the small village roads right in the middle of Hoang Su Phi to reach the lodge. Roads like DT197D / 197E for example?

        Doable? From google maps, they look like small single way ‘slabbed’ paved pathways going through the fields.

        1. Tom says:
          March 8, 2024 at 9:26 AM

          It’s worth a try! If paved and dry then I’m sure it’ll be fine; if wet and muddy then it will be difficult.

          Tom

          1. Damien says:
            March 12, 2024 at 2:06 PM

            Hey Nicolas, i have some news for you!
            Today i went from Sapa to Ha Giang. First i did the DT153. It is in good condition all the way up to Lung Phinh (except for some potholes here and there)
            After that i did the Bac Ha Xin Man road. This one has very few potholes and is in fairly good condition. It is just narrow and there is some gravel on it, watch out in the hairpin turns! The views are amazing tough.
            DT178 all the way to Vinh Quang has pretty similar conditions.

            Then, the DT177…
            The first 20km of it are mostly finished and completely paved or has at least a base layer of asphalt (conrete with a lot of thick gravel) there are about 3 more offroad bits, but they are very doable.

            The next 35 km up to QL2 are not finshed. I must say tough that I think that at least 70-80% of it has a least the base layer. This means that you can comfortably ride at about 30-40kph (slower is even better to enjoy the magnificent views) there are some nasty bits on it, but again, if you dont do it after heavy rainfall almost every bike will pass. I did it with a Honda CB150. The whole length of DT177 road took me about 2.5h.

            1. Tom says:
              March 13, 2024 at 11:10 AM

              Hi Damien,

              Thank you for this valuable and useful update on road conditions, especially DT177.

              Best,

              Tom

            2. Nicolas says:
              March 13, 2024 at 1:27 PM

              That’s amazing news! Thanks a ton for the update both of you.

              Doesn’t seem to be more of a hassle than what I experienced between Ta Xua and Tram Tau on DT112.

              So, yeah, providing it’s dry conditions, I’ll definitely do the DT177. I’ll update this thread in mid April!

              Cheers 🙂

              1. Will says:
                March 21, 2024 at 12:46 AM

                For any cyclists, I just finished that segment on a bicycle, by taking the pinkish line down to Panhou Retreat/Thông Nguyên. The pinkish line was as described, paved with some potholes, and narrow. Very pretty, very manageable.

                After rejoining the DT177 section there are 3-4 areas that will be mud pits if it has rained recently, but they are improving the road daily – I passed upwards of 20 steamrollers flattening the road at various points. There are still areas where the road is quite pitted but it was very doable on a hybrid bicycle.

                1. Tom says:
                  March 24, 2024 at 5:12 AM

                  Hi Will,

                  Thank you for this useful update – it’s good to know. So it sounds like DT177 is not too far from being complete.

                  Best,

                  Tom

  7. Marc says:
    November 24, 2023 at 8:00 AM

    First of all, thanks a lot Tom for the amazing content and community you have created.

    We have driven Ha Giang – Lao Cai over the last few days.
    Couple of updates: from Ha Giang until Yen Binh, QL2 and QL279 are in great condition. Only some bridges on QL279 could need some improvement but all good apart from that.
    The trouble starts driving DT178 up north. It’s a muddy construction site almost all the way up to the Deo Gio pass. I would definitely not recommend anyone driving there after or during rain – unless you want to have a dirt ride and have the right bike for it.
    After the waterfall until Xin Man it’s a nice but careful ride due to lot of curves and crazy truck drivers.
    The (in Google maps unnamed?) road continuing southwest towards Bac Ha is in great condition as well as the actual DT153 turning south towards the city of Bac Ha. We’ll continue to Lao Cai from here but so far, the roads look good. In case the situation worsens, we’ll let the community know.

    1. Tom says:
      November 26, 2023 at 7:45 AM

      Hi Marc,

      Thank you very much for the road updates, it’s really helpful to me and other readers and riders.

      DT178 has been patchy for many years now, so I hope the roadworks will improve conditions within a year or so.

      I hope the rest of your road trip goes well.

      Best,

      Tom

      1. Marc says:
        November 26, 2023 at 12:59 PM

        Yes, let’s hope for it! And – final update – the DT153 from Bac Ha is, apart from the first 5km, also in good condition. AH14/QL14 to Lao Cai is splendid.

  8. Brad says:
    November 9, 2023 at 12:39 PM

    Rode from Ha Giang today 9 Nov 2023 via Q22 and QL279 to turnoff on 197E heading north near Tan Trinh (22.4126635, 104.7212093). 197E is not in great repair but was doable on a Honda Future with a pillion. Our rental guy recommended this as an alternative to DT177. Less than 500m of very slick mud all up. It links up to the SW corner of the pink line in Thong Nguyen and avoids DT177. We were on DT177 for less than 5km (which was smooth, wide unsealed gravel) before joining 197D to Ho Thau. Will attempt DT197D heading west tomorrow!

    1. Tom says:
      November 11, 2023 at 4:31 PM

      Hi Brad,

      Thanks for your trip report and road updates. I hope the rest of the roads are also rideable.

      Best,

      Tom

  9. James says:
    October 28, 2023 at 10:49 AM

    To update on this area which I visited mid-September.
    Speaking to a local in Hoang Su Phi (HSP), DT177 is working to a timetable of being completed at the end of 2024. I passed a short section after it had been raining and the ruts were as deep as my adventure boots.
    DT197 is passable although slow going with potholes and a short section of mud near the damage. Suggest travellers take the small village roads past the Riz on the route up to HSP
    HSP to Xin Man had many landslides with mud on most corners, it had been raining heavily during that time and should be fine from during drier months.

    1. Tom says:
      October 31, 2023 at 12:23 PM

      Hi James,

      Thanks for the updates – very useful. Looks like we’ll have to wait until 2024 for DT177 to be finished then!

      Best,

      Tom

  10. Marie-France says:
    October 25, 2023 at 11:01 AM

    Hello!

    For those who are looking for fresh informations about the road to go to Thông Nguyên, I just arrived from there, so I will share, as it’s difficult to find new info.

    To get there, I asked a Vietnamese friend that came back from Thông Nguyên which road was the best, she told me to take the 197E starting at the junction with QL279 next to the market of Tân Trinh. The road is narrow, steep and full of big holes and unpaved patches. A lot of trucks passing by really quickly, etc. It’s bumpy, it would probably be better with a proper motorbike, but with a scooter, it was unpleasant (not to say dangerous) to get there. And as it goes up a lot, I was thinking that the way down would be worst…

    Before leaving, I asked the owner of the homestay where I stayed if the road DT177 was still under construction. He said that the road is under construction from Xin Man to Tan Quang. And by construction, it means that there is no proper road at the moment. Apparently, it was raining too much lately, so they couldn’t work… But he told me to take the DT177 anyway, as it would be faster than the 197E. So I gave it a try… To get to the DT177, the road is bumpy, but fine. The DT177 is a mud track at the moment. I was lucky, it was mostly dry when I was there, but it’s just sand, mud, lots of rocks that makes the road more bumpy, big holes and a lot of dust. There is no pave sections at all. It took me a long time to get to Tan Quang, but I made it safely. Again, with a motorbike it would have been better, but even, in some parts, locals were having a hard time to manage to pass.

    So hopefully, the road will be pave soon! If you decide to go, be careful! 😊

    Take care
    Marie-France

    1. Tom says:
      October 26, 2023 at 8:03 AM

      Hi Marie-France,

      Thank you for these important and helpful road updates – it is very useful to me and other readers and riders.

      It sounds like the construction on DT177 will last for another year at least, but after that it will be a lovely ride once again.

      It’s such a beautiful area, I hope road conditions with improve soon.

      I think it seems that for the next 6 months at least it is wise to avoid the road in wet or damp conditions, and even when dry to be very careful indeed.

      Best,

      Tom

  11. Blake Respini says:
    August 21, 2023 at 2:26 AM

    Hi, I rode from Ha Giang to Lao Cai during the first week of August 2023, following all the red and pink routes. Great ride; however, potential riders should be aware that the main road from Quang Binh to Su Phi was under major construction and pretty bad for riding, not only due to the deeps ruts caused by heavy machinery but also to the constant eye sore of the construction itself. We took the pink cut off through Hoang Nguyen to get of the main road and hat road was beautiful and smoother, and despite being a little longer than the main road, was probably quicker and certainly more pleasant.

    1. Tom says:
      August 21, 2023 at 2:35 AM

      Hi Blake,

      Thank you very much for this important update. Can you please clarify that the construction you are referring to is on the road between Tan Quang and Hoang Su Phi (DT177) or between Quang Binh and Hoang Su Phi (DT178)?

      Best,

      Tom

      1. Blake Respini says:
        August 21, 2023 at 3:24 AM

        So sorry for the error. The construction is on the entire distance from Tan Quang to Hoand Su Phi.

        1. Tom says:
          August 21, 2023 at 6:20 AM

          That’s great, thank you for clarifying!

          Best,

          Tom

  12. Brendon Lim says:
    May 31, 2023 at 9:44 AM

    Tay Con Linh Hotel at Hoang Su Phi is 250k VND.
    Room is large and clean with a balcony.
    Bathroom cleanliness is about average.
    Room has a minibar fridge ideal for the drinks in the hot and humid summer Vietnam is facing now.

    1. Tom says:
      May 31, 2023 at 12:05 PM

      Hi Brendon,

      Thanks for the update – sounds like quite a good deal! 🙂

      Best,

      Tom

  13. Brendon Lim says:
    May 31, 2023 at 5:03 AM

    This morning (31st May 2023) I took the DT177 from Bac Quang to Hoang Su Phi.
    The road is muddy in many sections and if it was raining it would be a mud bath.

    1. Tom says:
      May 31, 2023 at 12:04 PM

      Hi Brendon,

      Thank you for the update. I hope they’ll finish repaving that route soon – it’s such a beautiful area.

      Best,

      Tom

  14. Mike says:
    January 18, 2023 at 12:43 PM

    Hi !

    First off all thank you very much for this content it’s really help us to prepare the trip

    I have a question, we would follow the blue road from Sapa to Bac Ha one night in Bac Ha, and from Bac Ha to Ha Giang
    You mention we should take the road from Moung Khoung early to enjoy the road to Bac Ha, when I look on google map the road is quit short and could be done in an afternoon. do you recommend to take the time because the road is beautiful or you think Google map is not relevant ?

    We will arrive by train at lao Cai 5AM, take the road to Sapa
    Leave Sapa around 9/10am ( time to walk and enjoy the view)
    Arriving at Murong Khuong around 13PM (short break)
    Leave Murong Khuong at 13:30PM
    Arrive at Si Ma Cai around 4.30PM
    Then to Bac Ha arriving at 6PM

    Do you think this road could be done ? (in case on problem with the motorbike or difficult roads I took care to ad 30min to 1hour every stop)
    Maybe it is to short to do it in one day, thanks agains for the web site and your travel experiences
    Mike

    1. Tom says:
      January 21, 2023 at 11:11 AM

      Hi Mike,

      In the northern mountains many of the roads are quite small and very windy, so they can take longer to ride than you expect. Also, sometimes road works, or landslides, or bad road conditions might slow you down, too. On a windy, mountainous road in northern Vietnam, your average speed might only be 30kmph. But, if the weather and the road conditions are good, then you can ride between Sapa and Bac Ha on the blue route in one day following your schedule without a problem. But remember, the scenery is so good that you will probably want to stop to look at it a lot! 🙂

      Best,

      Tom

  15. Việt says:
    October 16, 2022 at 4:55 PM

    Why you don’t try to pass Y Tý, from Sapa go to Y Tý then Y Tý back to Lào Cai.

    1. Tom says:
      October 17, 2022 at 12:12 PM

      Hi Việt,

      Yes, I’ve put that route in a different guide on this page. But there are some rough roads on the Y Ty route and also foreign visitors aren’t allowed to stay overnight at the moment unless they have a permit.

      Best,

      Tom

  16. Pat says:
    September 14, 2022 at 4:16 PM

    Hi Tom.

    So I pick apiece this section for a direct route from Lao Cai to Ha Giang today. Yes 1 day’s riding (250km) but I was feeling up for it.
    Firstly, what an amazing day’s riding. The AH14 was smooth riding all the way along to the turning off for Bac Ha. Once I was on the DT153, the stunning scenery soon appeared all the way until Xin Man. Stopping at the panorama coffee place to take it in. I don’t remember any of this road being too bad.
    Then the drive on the DT178 towards Thac Tien Waterfall was just a dream also. Absolutely breathtaking. And thanks so much for the recommendation. A lovely pit stop. (There’s always a gorgeous looking Homestay about 5km before the waterfall I would’ve enquired about had it been later in the day). The road 5km EACH side of the waterfall is a little beaten up but totally worth the price on today’s riding. Once out of hillsides and onto QL279 it was awful until Viet Quang but the 60km left to Ha Giang was a dreamy smooth road to finish up a long but very beautiful and memorable day 🙂

    1. Tom says:
      September 15, 2022 at 6:59 AM

      Hi Pat,

      Thanks for your trip report and updates on road conditions.

      I’m glad you enjoyed this route. It’s a shame about QL279 – it’s been in bad condition for years now!

      But it’s great to hear that the other roads are in decent condition and that the scenery is still fantastic.

      Best,

      Tom

  17. Lucas Walker says:
    August 17, 2022 at 11:56 AM

    The DT177 south of Hoang Su Phi is mostly torn up at the moment with roadworks. Very bad conditions and long delays! Once it’s finished this will be a spectacular route.

    1. Tom says:
      August 19, 2022 at 4:22 AM

      Hi Lucas,

      Thanks for the useful update. That’s a shame, but as you say, when it’s finished it’ll be great.

      Best,

      Tom

      1. Patryk says:
        January 22, 2023 at 10:11 AM

        Greetings, I’m considering travelling on this road in the next few days and wondering how to find out if the road has been completed or is in a mostly decent condition 5 months after Lucas’ info about the roadworks. Any leads? Or just give it a bash?

        1. Tom says:
          January 23, 2023 at 6:08 AM

          Hi Patryk,

          It’s difficult to say – that was 6 months ago so they must have made progress on the road works by now. However, I haven’t heard any updates since then.

          It’s best to ask people as you go – you’ll meet riders going in the opposite direction who you can ask, or ask locals, such as at your hotels or guest houses.

          Best,

          Tom

        2. Neil says:
          March 6, 2023 at 6:56 AM

          How was it? Considering doing the dt177 too

          1. Tom says:
            March 7, 2023 at 3:45 AM

            Hi Neil,

            The report about road construction on DT177 south of Hoang Su Phi was 6 months ago, so I would expect there has been some progress made. However, that is a very windy stretch of road so I also imagine it might take a long time to pave. I think the best thing to do would be to ask when you are in the general area. Also, if you do ride it, please report back here with up dates on conditions. Thanks.

            Best,

            Tom