Ho Chi Minh Road, Motorbike Guide, Vietnam

Ho Chi Minh Road | Motorbike Guide

Last updated September 2024 | Words and photos by Vietnam Coracle

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Tom Divers is the founder and creator of Vietnam Coracle. He’s lived, travelled and worked in Vietnam since 2005. Born in London, he travelled from an early age, visiting over 40 countries (he first visited Vietnam in 1999). Now, whenever he has the opportunity to make a trip, he rarely looks beyond Vietnam’s borders and his trusty motorbike, Stavros. Read more about Tom on the About Page, Vietnam Times and ASE Podcast.


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One of the most famous road names in the world, the Ho Chi Minh Road traverses the mountainous western spine of Vietnam – abutting both Cambodia and Laos – connecting Saigon (Ho Chi Minh City) in the south with Hanoi in the north. Not to be confused with the Ho Chi Minh Trail (most of which is actually in Laos), the Ho Chi Minh Road is fully paved along its entire 1,880km length, offering an unbroken stretch of road from south to north through some of the most spectacular scenery in Vietnam. At its best, the Ho Chi Minh Road is a thread of asphalt winding into the distance with such organic grace that it appears part of the natural landscape. Although ‘Ho Chi Minh Road’ is a name redolent of war, for those who ride it today, their lasting impression is of the majesty of nature: jungles coating mountains like melted wax, rivers filling valleys like veins of cobalt, and limestone pillars rising like crenellated fortifications along the Cambodian and Lao borders. I’ve been riding up and down the Ho Chi Minh Road since 2009 and it continues to thrill me.


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HO CHI MINH ROAD


A Complete Guide to an Historic Route

In this comprehensive guide to the entire length of the Ho Chi Minh Road, covering 1,880km from Saigon to Hanoi, I’ve included an annotated route map, quick at-a-glance details, an overview of important considerations, such as distance, duration, weather, accommodation, etc., and fully illustrated descriptions of each section of the route. As this is a very long road trip, I’ve divided my guide into 3 Parts: Southern, Central and Northern. These are then subdivided into 8 Sections (see Contents below). Riders can choose to ride the whole route or just parts of it, but if you only ride one stretch of the Ho Chi Minh Road, make sure it’s the Central Part (sections 3-6), which is where the very best scenery and riding can be found.

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CONTENTS:

Route Map

Overview & Details

Southern Part

Section 1: Saigon→Đồng Xoài→Gia Nghĩa→Buôn Ma Thuột | 340km

Section 2: Buôn Ma Thuột→Pleiku→Kon Tum | 230km

Central Part

Section 3: Kon Tum→Khâm Đức→Prao | 280km

Section 4: Prao→A Lưới→Khe Sanh | 210km

Section 5: Khe Sanh→Long Sơn→Phong Nha | 230km

Section 6: Phong Nha→Hương Khê→Phố Châu | 180km

Northern Part

Section 7: Phố Châu→Tân Kỳ→Cẩm Thủy | 260km

Section 8: Cẩm Thủy→Cúc Phương→Hanoi | 150km

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ROUTE MAP:

Ho Chi Minh Road | 1,880km

Blue Line: Ho Chi Minh Road | Red Lines: bypasses


*Road Safety & Disclaimer: Riding a motorbike in Vietnam – or anywhere in the world – has its dangers. I would hope & expect anyone who chooses to pursue a self-drive road trip based on the information on this website does so with care, respect & due diligence. I encourage careful riding & adherence to road rules, but I am not responsible for the legality or manner in which you ride, nor any negative consequences which may result from your decision to ride a motorbike in Vietnam: you do so at your own risk. Read more >


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Overview & Details:

Below is a brief at-a-glance overview of the Ho Chi Minh Road, followed by more specific details about important considerations, such as time, distance, duration, accommodation, traffic, food and drink, weather conditions and more:

QUICK DETAILS:

  • Route: an historic road traversing the mountainous western spine of Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi
  • Distance: 1,880km (full route)
  • Duration: 2 weeks (full route)
  • Scenery: agricultural plateaus, jungles, limestone mountains, river valleys, borderlands, highland cities & villages
  • Attractions: caves, waterfalls, historic sites, mountain passes, war remnants, good riding, remote villages
  • Road Conditions: mostly good, wide, paved roads; some narrow sections, mostly light traffic; some busy sections
  • Best Time: March-September

ABOUT THIS ROUTE:

Start & End: The start/end of this route is Saigon (Ho Chi Minh City) in the south and Hanoi, the capital, in the north. You can ride the Ho Chi Minh Road in either direction; it makes no difference. Although, technically the Ho Chi Minh Road doesn’t actually start/end in the heart of these two cities, I have chosen the city centres as the start/end point because it is most convenient to do so. In fact, the Ho Chi Minh Road continues further south of Saigon and further north from Hanoi, but only some sections of those are completed. Riding the entire length of the Ho Chi Minh Road is a great road trip, but it’s also possible to join the road at almost any point along its length by taking one of the many east-west roads that link the mountains with the coast. If you only ride one stretch of the Ho Chi Minh Road, make sure it’s the Central Part (sections 3-6), as this is one of the best rides in Vietnam, including the jaw-dropping Western Ho Chi Minh Road (section 5) between Khe Sanh and Phong Nha.

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Distances & Duration: The total distance of the Ho Chi Minh Road from Saigon to Hanoi is 1,880km. If you want to ride the entire route, 2 weeks is about right. But it depends how you want to ride: long distances on consecutive days or shorter distances with stops for a couple of nights at interesting destinations. For reference, a long riding day on Vietnamese roads is 200km-400km; a reasonable day is 100km-200km.

Itineraries & Sections: I have written and arranged this route going from south to north, starting in Saigon and ending in Hanoi. However, you can ride the Ho Chi Minh Road in either direction – it makes no difference. I have divided the Ho Chi Minh Road into 8 Sections (see Contents). It is possible to treat each of these sections as one day on the road, but it is not necessary to do so: you can plan your itinerary however you like. As a general rule, the more flexible you are, the better your road trip will be. The only section that you really need to plan ahead for is Section 5, which is the Western Ho Chi Minh Road between Khe Sanh and Phong Nha, where there is just one place to stay and one gas station.

Using the Map: My route map has the entire 1,880km-length of the Ho Chi Minh Road from Saigon to Hanoi marked with a blue line. In addition, the red lines are bypasses which lead around major towns on the route. I’ve also marked all major cities and towns with a red pin as well as dozens of sights and accommodations along the way. To use the map and guide offline with navigation, you can purchase the Ho Chi Minh Road Offline Map & Guide at the top of this page.

Weather & Time of Year: As the Ho Chi Minh Road covers the length of the nation and is so mountainous, it is difficult to determine the best time of year to ride it. However, weather conditions from March to September are generally the most favourable. From October to February, there’s a high chance of grey and damp (and even cold) conditions anywhere north of Prao (sections 4-8). Vietnam’s climate is very complex and often misrepresented by the travel media. Take a look at my Weather Guide to better understand the seasons and climate throughout the nation.

Traffic & Road Conditions: For much of its length, the Ho Chi Minh Road is a relatively quiet, well-maintained, two-lane highway which sees very little traffic compared to other major north-south routes, namely Highway 1 (QL1A). What’s more, many of the major cities and towns where traffic tends to bottleneck, especially in the southern sections, are bypassed by new ring roads (the red lines on my map). By far the quietest and most remote stretch is the Western Ho Chi Minh Road between Khe Sanh and Phong Nha (Section 5). This is also significant because it is the only section that’s fairly narrow and made primarily of concrete slabs.

Gas Stations: Throughout its entire length, gas stations are pretty frequent on the Ho Chi Minh Road. Nevertheless, it’s best not to let your fuel gauge get into the red before looking to fill up. The only exception is, again, the Western Ho Chi Minh Road between Khe Sanh and Phong Nha (Section 5). This 240km stretch only has one gas station, and even that is sometimes closed.

Accommodation: There are places to stay at almost every city, town and village marked on my map with a red pin. Obviously, the bigger cities have a greater range of accommodation; some of the smaller settlements may only have one or two local guest houses (nhà nghỉ). I have marked dozens of specific places to stay on my map with an orange bed pin, but these are just some examples of what’s available. Unless you are travelling during a public holiday or want to stay in a specific place, there’s no need to book accommodation in advance. The only stretch of road where there is very limited accommodation is the Western Ho Chi Minh Road (Section 5), between Khe Sanh and Phong Nha, where there is just one option to overnight, which is the Trường Thành Hotel in Long Sơn.

Food & Drink: There are plenty of dining and drinking options in the cities, towns and villages along the Ho Chi Minh Road. Obviously, the cities have the widest variety, but even the smaller villages have at least a handful of cơm-phở (rice and noodle) eateries. The only stretch where this isn’t the case is the Western Ho Chi Minh Road, between Khe Sanh and Phong Nha (Section 5). On this stretch, it’s wise to take a picnic, because there’s very little to eat for most of the 240km ride, beyond pot noodles and various sweet snacks.

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The central sections of the Ho Chi Minh Road are the most scenic

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There’s plenty of accommodation on most stretches of the Ho Chi Minh Road

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Roadside food is available on most sections of the Ho Chi Minh Road

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Traffic is light for long stretches of the Ho Chi Minh Road

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Section 1:

Saigon→Đồng Xoài→Gia Nghĩa→Buôn Ma Thuột | 340km

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There are many ways to ride out of Saigon (Ho Chi Minh City) due north via the industrial hub of Bình Dương to the beginning of the Ho Chi Minh Road proper. Unfortunately, no matter which route you choose, it is a rather unpleasant 90-minute ride through factory towns and truck-clogged highways. However, if you take the route I suggest on my map, via the impressive ‘new cities’ of Bình Dương and Bến Cát, the roads are mostly wide and well-maintained, and if you leave early in the morning (before 5am), then the journey is bearable enough. You could even take a brief detour to the haunting ruins of Cầu Sông Bé Bridge.

At the intersection with QL13, turn due east onto the Ho Chi Minh Road: this is the start of the road that will take you all the way north for 1,800km. The road glides through acres of rubber plantations and there are already signs of the rich red soil that characterizes the Central highlands – even the light has a reddish tinge to it. After passing through the bustling town of Đồng Xoài (literally ‘Mango Field’) the road begins its slow climb up to the fertile plateaus of Đắk Nông and Đắk Lấk provinces. It’s easy to forget just how big Vietnam is: here, at one of the widest points of the nation, the landscape is broad, open and undulating as it stretches all the way west to the Cambodian border. As the road ascends, the air cools slightly, the sun feels more intense, the light get sharper, and fruit plantations carpet the landscape – cashew, jackfruit and rubber – punctuated by several gigantic bauxite mines. The scenery is not spectacular, but it is interesting, agricultural and vast. Traffic is not too bad, but trucks regularly ply this section, transporting agricultural products from the highlands to the cities and ports on the coast. Gia Nghĩa, the capital of Đắk Nông Province, is a good place to overnight with several accommodation options, food, cafes and the striking Liên Nung Waterfall nearby.

North of Gia Nghiã, the Ho Chi Minh Road ascends into scruffy pine forests before skirting the Cambodian border near Đắk Mil, then veering northeast towards Buôn Ma Thuột, the largest city in the Central Highlands. This is the coffee growing capital of Vietnam: the vast plateaus are blanketed in coffee bushes, as well as cacao and tropical fruits. The landscape in this region is dotted with extinct volcanoes which make the soil rich and fertile. Post 1975, there was a government push to populate this area which has led to a densely cultivated, productive, agricultural landscape. Although the scenery isn’t particularly inspiring, the road surface is excellent and the riding is a joy, meandering on a river of asphalt to Buôn Ma Thuột, a busy and increasingly prosperous city with lots of hotels, food and excellent coffee shops to sample the local product, such as Topo Botanic Garden.

Cau Song Be Bridge, Binh Duong
The evocative ruins of Cầu Sông Bé Bridge

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The start of the Ho Chi Minh Road, near Bình Dương

Lien Nung Waterfall, Dak Nong, Vietnam
Impressive Liên Nung Waterfall, near Gia Nghiã

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View of the ever-growing highlands city of Buôn Ma Thuột

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Topo Botanic Garden Cafe, Buôn Ma Thuột City

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Section 2:

Buôn Ma Thuột→Pleiku→Kon Tum | 230km

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The stretch of the Ho Chi Minh Road between Buôn Ma Thuột and Kon Tum is a straight shoot across vast agricultural plateaus, past thriving highland towns and cities, and a landscape that was once the scene of heavy fighting. Even though some of the towns in this section are congested, new bypasses (see the red lines on my map) now sweep around them in spectacular fashion, creating some great riding roads. The enormous undulating plateau is broken regularly by the vertical monoliths of wind turbines, rotating slowly across the landscape. The scenery may not be pretty but road conditions are excellent as the asphalt soars across the plateau, slicing through plantations where clouds of yellow butterflies drift across the road.

Heading north from Buôn Ma Thuột, the road plunges through miles and miles of coffee and pepper farms, passionfruit orchards and rubber plantations stretching to the horizon. The neat ranks of spindly rubber trees, standing erect on the hillsides, look like formations of a medieval army on a battlefield, waiting for the fighting to commence. Indeed, a battle did take place in these hills, some 60 years ago, between American forces and the North Vietnamese Army. In 1965, in the Ia Đrăng Valley to the west of the Ho Chi Minh Road, hundreds of US troops and thousands of Vietnamese were killed fighting under a deluge of bombs from B52s, in what was the first direct conflict between the two sides of what became known, in the West, as the ‘Vietnam War’, but what is known in Vietnam as the ‘American War’. Today, the Ia Đrăng Valley is an especially dry place: the earth is red and has a crisp, burnt crust to it and the colours are washed out, even the distant peaks are beige and arid.

Pleiku is a large, busy city, capital of the second biggest province in Vietnam, Gia Lai. Even though it’s not a particularly attractive city, there’s lots of accommodation here, a decent cafe scene and plenty of food options, making it a fine place to overnight. However, given the choice, the next town, Kon Tum, is a better option. Between Pleiku and Kon Tum, the Ho Chi Minh Road is arrow-straight, passing several dormant volcanoes until the plateau finally gives way to lush mountains and valleys surrounding the Đăk Bla River. Kon Tum, peaceful during the day and pleasantly abuzz in the evenings, is located on the riverside with some good cafes, hotels, street food, interesting architecture and even a couple of cocktail bars. Don’t miss the impressive bamboo interior of Indochine Coffee, one of many works by Võ Trọng Nghiã who is Vietnam’s best-known architect. For a drink, drop by the speakeasy-style The Witch’s Cocktail Bar.

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Arrow-straight bypasses on the Ho Chi Minh Road

Red earth, Ho Chi Minh Road, Vietnam
The rich, dry, red earth of the Central Highlands

Pleiku, Vietnam
The city of Pleiku at dusk

The Witches Cocktail Bar, Kon Tum, Vietnam
The Witch’s Cocktail Bar in Kon Tum

Guest House, Kon Tum, Vietnam
Kon Tum has lots of accommodation options

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Section 3:

Kon Tum→Khâm Đức→Prao | 280km

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North from Kon Tum the Ho Chi Minh Road rolls through a heavily farmed and surprisingly densely populated landscape to Đắk Tô, scene of some of the fiercest battles of the American War. The countryside still bears the scars of all the bombs and defoliants that were dropped on the hills and forests here during the autumn of 1967. Just after Đắk Tô town, the road runs parallel with an abandoned US airstrip, now used by local farmers to dry their crops. As the road bears west, the next stop is the dusty crossroads town of Ngọc Hồi, gateway to the the triple international border crossing between Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos at Bờ Y.

Following the course of the Đăk Pô Kô River north to the village of Đăk Glei, the Ho Chi Minh Road meanders along an agricultural valley where the forests have been decimated in recent years: it looks as though the trees have been vacuumed off the hillsides. However, north of Đăk Glei, the road begins to climb up Lò Xo Pass where the jungles close in and the road soars steeply around the foothills of Ngọc Linh (2,598m), the highest mountain in all of central and southern Vietnam. At the top of the pass, the scenery gets even better as agriculture is pushed from the mountainsides down to the river valleys, forced there by dense tropical forests that appear to melt over the mountains like candle-wax, dripping down the steep contours and washed by relentless cascades of rain-water, draining off the mountains in gushing waterfalls, and swelling the rivers below. A joyous ride along a cinnamon-scented valley leads to the friendly little village of Khâm Đức. A sleepy, likeable place surrounded by purple mountains and fresh highlands air, Khâm Đức has a couple of small hotels for an overnight stay.

The stretch of road from Khâm Đức to Thạnh Mỹ – following a wide and rocky river valley carving through the mountains and jungle – is an excellent ride. Gold was discovered here some years ago, and even today you may see people standing waist-deep in the eddies, panning for the precious metal. Thạnh Mỹ is a strange, dull place at a large crossroads of waterways. Pass straight through it, across the river, and continue due north on the Ho Chi Minh Road towards Prao. This 40km stretch is great fun to ride. Rolling up and down steep slopes and meandering from valley to valley in a glorious slalom, a hypnotic rhythm is induced by the constant switch-backs – lean left, lean right – and the flashes of sunlight piercing through the thick foliage and streaking the road at regular intervals. Eventually, the road drops into a valley and the village of Prao, also called Đông Giang. Here, there are a couple of decent guest houses to stay the night, as well as rice and noodle eateries, cafes and a gas station, where you will need to fill up because there’s very little else for the next 100km to A Lưới.

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Abandoned US airstrip near Đắk Tô

Scenery on the Ho Chi Minh Road, Vietnam
Scenery near Khâm Đức

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The Ho Chi Minh Road between Khâm Đức & Thạnh Mỹ

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A bowl of mì quảng in Khâm Đức, a regional speciality

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The Ho Chi Minh Road between Thạnh Mỹ & Prao

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Section 4:

Prao→A Lưới→Khe Sanh | 210km

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One of the emptiest and most jungle-covered stretches of the Ho Chi Minh Road, the century of kilometers between Prao to A Lưới is a rider’s paradise. You’re unlikely to see more than a few other vehicles on the entire section as you corkscrew up and then spiral down the rainforest-clad mountains straddling the Lao border. The air is fresh, clean, clear and sweet, filled with birdsong and the rush of streams and waterfalls. Ridge after ridge of mountains, carpeted in thick forest, appear to wax and wane behind curtains of cloud, mist and rain. At times, when the road can go no higher, it simply glides along the mountain ridge; when the slope is too sheer for the road to continue, eerie dark tunnels burrow beneath the mountaintops to the other side. There are very few man-made structures in the landscape, save for a remote abandoned army outpost near the Lao border and a couple of forestry huts dedicated to the protection of the rare and endangered Sao La. Also known as the ‘Asian Unicorn’, this pretty, deer-like animal wasn’t even known to science until the 1990s, and it has still never been seen in the wild by a Westerner. Very few are left, but those that are live deep in these forests.

The land levels out as the road glides across a wide agricultural valley to A Lưới, a very friendly little settlement strung along either side of the Ho Chi Minh Road. There’s a large local market, some street food and a couple of OK guesthouses for a night or homestays around the nearby Anor Waterfall.

The next 100km to Khe Sanh is a very pretty ride through an area that was once a major conflict zone. Quảng Trị Province is the most heavily bombed in all Vietnam. Even today, it’s estimated that 80% of land is still affected by UXO (unexploded ordnance). From A Lứơi, the road leads through a wide valley covered in tropical trees – papaya, banana, cinnamon, pineapple, teak. Mountains rise in all directions and local children wave their arms in excitement as you pass through hamlets of wooden stilt houses. You’d never guess that the barren, rounded mountain to the west was the infamous Hamburger Hill. Of course, sites like this make you pause and contemplate the war but, happily, as the road continues up the Pê Kê Pass, along glistening rivers and the jagged Đa Krông valley, it’s the beauty of the landscape and the warmth of local people, rather the tragedy of war, that causes you to stop and reflect.

The last 15km is a steep climb due west to Khe Sanh, a frontier town not far from Lao Bảo, one of Vietnam’s busiest international gateways to Laos. Indeed, the road and town are often full of trucks and buses bound for Vientiane, the Lao capital. Khe Sanh is a dusty market town surrounded by windfarms and the Tà Cơn airbase, site of the infamous siege of Khe Sanh in 1968. The town, which has a couple of decent hotels (Khánh Phương Luxury is by far the best) and places to eat, is a logical overnight stop before tackling the remote and magnificent Western Ho Chi Minh Road the next day. Khe Sanh is at the right altitude and has the right climate to grow the coveted arabica coffee bean. There are several good cafes to sample the local coffee, which is among the best in Vietnam. Get some rest and stock up on supplies (especially gas for your motorbike) in preparation for the next day’s ride into the wonderland that is the Western Ho Chi Minh Road (see Section 5).

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The fantastic stretch of road between Prao & A Lưới

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Misty jungles, home of the rare & endangered ‘Asian Unicorn’

Bowl of Bún Bò Huế, A Luoi, Vietnam
A bowl of bún bò Huế in A Lưới, a regional speciality

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The Ho Chi Minh Road climbing through jungles & mountains

Khanh Phuong Hotel, Khe Sanh, Vietnam
Guest room at Khánh Phương Luxury Hotel in Khe Sanh

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Section 5:

Khe Sanh→Long Sơn→Phong Nha | 230km

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The 230km/240km stretch from Khe Sanh to Phong Nha/Khe Gát is known as the Western Ho Chi Minh Road and it is unquestionably one of the best rides in Vietnam. The scenery is terrific but riders should take note that there are only a couple of gas stations and accommodation options along the entire route and there are very few settlements, people or vehicles.

I’ve mapped the only two gas stations (one in Hướng Phùng, the other in Long Sơn) on my map. However, both gas stations are sometimes closed or run out of supplies, so it’s a good idea to carry a 1.5 litre plastic bottle of petrol with you in case of emergencies. It’s also worth buying some snacks and drinks for the journey, as there’s precious little in the way of dining options for over 200km. With the opening of a new hotel in Long Sơn – roughly halfway between Khe Sanh and Phong Nha – it’s now possible to ride the Western Ho Chi Minh Road over two days, which gives you all the time you need to take it slowly and really appreciate this remarkable ride. The alternative is to ride the full distance in one day, which means starting early in the morning, because 240km is a long way on such windy roads and your average speed will likely be just 30km-40km per hour. (See the following guide for more details: The Hotel & Gas on the Western Ho Chi Minh Road.)

A few kilometres northwest of Khe Sanh, past the Tà Cơn airfield, the road surface changes to the distinctive concrete slabs that characterize the rest of the Western Ho Chi Minh Road. Rolling across an undulating agricultural landscape – planted with colossal wind turbines – the road drops into the dusty village of Hướng Phùng, where there’s a gas station, shops, cafes and a couple of overnight options. Immediately out of town, the road starts to climb the Sa Mù Pass and things get really, really good. Jungles engorge mountain streams that run clean and clear through rifts in the foliage, the road soars, and people and buildings disappear from the landscape. The road swirls down to a crossroads for a remote Lao border gate before beginning another extraordinary ascent into the jungles and mountains, and through remote villages of wooden homes where everyone runs into the road to wave hello, as if they’ve been waiting there all day for you to pass. It just gets better and better, the further and further you go. From here all the way to Phong Nha or Khe Gát, it’s just a matter of letting the scenery wash over you: bend after bend, pass after pass, the landscape folds you in its peaks and valleys, rivers and forests.

After passing the potential overnight stop of Son Homestay and through the rustic hamlet of Tăng Ký, the road runs alongside the Long Đại River, a bucolic valley that, in good weather conditions, is a seam of turquoise running between jade-green limestone hills illuminated by the fresh Trường Sơn mountain light with its distinctive purple glaze. As the scenery reaches its prettiest, the village of Long Sơn appears by a meander in the river. With a gas station, a decent hotel and some shops, this spectacularly located little settlement is the ideal (and the only) place to break your journey on the Western Ho Chi Minh Road. Given the chance, I’d highly recommend staying at the Trường Thành Hotel for a night before continuing to Phong Nha or Khe Gát the next day.

Continuing due north from Long Sơn there is a wonderful, iconic vista back across the valley and the village. Just a couple of minutes further on, don’t miss the picturesque suspension bridge high above the Long Đại River, which is a great photo opportunity and, if you scramble down to the riverbank, an excellent swimming spot. After many hours and much fabulous scenery on the Western Ho Chi Minh Road, you’d be forgiven for thinking that it can’t get any better: but it does. Once the road enters the confines of Phong Nha-Kẻ Bàng National Park, the strange, haunting shapes of jungle-clad limestone mountains come into view. Eroded by the elements over millions of years, these mountains have been sculpted by nature into soaring pillars and pinnacles, many of them resembling the crooked pointy peaks of wizards’ and witches’ hats. For 100km kilometers, the road threads a course between these magical natural edifices. It is a breathtaking ride, and what’s more there is nobody else around. Enjoy it, because the word is bound to get out.

In such a remote and geologically fascinating place as this, it is perhaps not surprising that the region was holding a very big secret. It turns out that the marvels of this national park continue under the mountains. In 2009, it was announced that the largest cave in the world, Sơn Đoòng, had been discovered here. Not only that, but the area is full of impressive caverns, many of which can be easily accessed from the Western Ho Chi Minh Road, such as Paradise CaveDark Cave, and Phong Nha Cave, and others that can be visited via multi-day expeditions with professional tour companies in Phong Nha. These are all wonderful places to visit, but try to come on a weekday (not a weekend or holiday) when the caves are less crowded. 

At an intersection, riders have a choice: bear left (due northwest) to stay on the Ho Chi Minh Road to Khe Gát (20km), or bear right (due northeast) to continue to Phong Nha village (15km). Phong Nha is a good place to overnight and do some some sightseeing. There are lots of good accommodation options and the area is a travellers enclave, with trendy cafes, international cuisine and a lively atmosphere. A day or two here to rest and relax makes sense before rejoining the Ho Chi Minh Road again.

Western Ho Chi Minh Road, Khe Sanh to Phong Nha, Vietnam
The Western Ho Chi Minh Road is wild & beautiful

Western Ho Chi Minh Road, Khe Sanh to Phong Nha, Vietnam
Gazing at the jungle from the Western Ho Chi Minh Road

Western Ho Chi Minh Road, Khe Sanh to Phong Nha, Vietnam
A view of Long Sơn village

Western Ho Chi Minh Road, Khe Sanh to Phong Nha, Vietnam
Guest room at Trường Thành Hotel on the Western Ho Chi Minh Road

Western Ho Chi Minh Road, Khe Sanh to Phong Nha, Vietnam
Suspension bridge over the Long Đại River

Western Ho Chi Minh Road, Khe Sanh to Phong Nha, Vietnam
Paradise Cave, near Phong Nha

Western Ho Chi Minh Road, Khe Sanh to Phong Nha, Vietnam
Magical: the Western Ho Chi Minh Road

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Section 6:

Phong Nha→Hương Khê→Phố Châu | 180km

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Leaving Phong Nha and Khe Gát junction behind, the Ho Chi Minh Road bears due northwest, starting with a long, straight section of road running beneath a line of limestone mountains, following the course of a war-era military airstrip. This gives way to the steep and wide Đá Đẽo Pass, which curls around the mountains offering Jurassic Park-like views across a lush landscape of jungles and karsts. Beyond the pass, the road ploughs on alongside blue rivers bisecting verdant valleys between vertical limestone pillars and wooden hamlets clustered on the narrow plains. Traffic is very light and the scenery is excellent for the entire 100km stretch between Phong Nha and the junction at Tân Ấp. If you have time, there are several small paved lanes leading off the highway to some wonderful swimming spots on the river.

After Tân Ấp, the scenery becomes much gentler: the valleys are wide and cultivated, the road is straight, the mountains recede into the distance and traffic gets heavier thanks to trucks plying between Lao border gates in the west. Trade with Laos is booming and this means that transportation corridors linking the two communist nations are blighted by freighters crawling along the roads. Still, the riding is pleasant and swift, road conditions are good and the landscape is big and green if not spectacular. Hương Khê is a surprisingly lively settlement with a large lake and some decent food and accommodation if needed.

Although the last leg to Phố Châu passes some good scenery – rubber, tea and cinnamon plantations and the misty, forested slopes of Vũ Quang National Park to the west – when compared to the dramatic landscapes of the previous days, it seems tame and tainted. Settlements get bigger, concrete houses replace wooden huts, agriculture swallows up the forests and factories appear by the roadside. Phố Châu is a crossroads town at an intersection with Highway QL8A, which leads west to the Cầu Treo border crossing with Laos. There’s not much to recommend Phố Châu, but it’s a natural overnight stop on the Ho Chi Minh Road with some hotels and dining options.

The Ho Chi Minh Road, Vietnam
The Ho Chi Minh Road near Phong Nha

The Ho Chi Minh Road, Vietnam
Clear blue rivers by the Ho Chi Minh Road north of Phong Nha

The Ho Chi Minh Road, Vietnam
The landing strip section of road near Phong Nha

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Limestone karsts seen from the Đá Đẽo Pass

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River bathing on the Ho Chi Minh Road north of the Đá Đẽo Pass

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Section 7:

Phố Châu→Tân Kỳ→Cẩm Thủy | 260km

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An open, largely empty stretch of road coursing through a landscape of plantations covering the length of Vietnam’s largest province (Nghệ An), the section of the Ho Chi Minh Road between Phố Châu and Tân Kỳ is characterized by gentle hills, terraced tea farms, pine forests and the high misty mountains of Laos to the west. It’s a pleasant, easy and uneventful ride with a few points of interest and worthwhile detours, if you have the time. Thanh Chương lies west of the road, where boats take visitors on a lake surrounded by pretty tea hills and several homestays offer overnight accommodation. Khe Kèm Waterfall is an hour west of the Ho Chi Minh Road, and Kim Liên, the birthplace of the road’s namesake, is a short ride east. What’s more, at Tân Kỳ the KM0 Monument marks the start of the original Ho Chi Minh Trail where supply lines stretched all the way south, through the jungles and over the mountains via Laos, to aid fighting in the south of Vietnam. Tân Kỳ also has some decent accommodation if you need it. If you’re feeling adventurous (and can spare a couple of days), the empty roads and amazing landscapes of the Mường Lống Loop lie further to the west.

At the ‘neck’ of Vietnam, Nghệ An is a vast province and the revolutionary heartland of the nation; many of the country’s most celebrated heroes hail from this region. People here are known as ‘Nghệ An Buffaloes’ on account of their resilience and hardiness to endure the labour involved in working the land and the harsh climate they face throughout the year: massive heat and typhoons in the summer; cold, bleak days in the winter. However, when riding through the province on the Ho Chi Minh Road, its an easy, smooth drive all the way due north to Lam Sơn, a sprawling network of settlements and home to one of Vietnam’s greatest military figures, Lê Lợi (1385-1433), whose temple and tomb can be visited just east of the road at Lam Kinh. There’s some accommodation in and around Lam Sơn, if needed, and this is also the start point of another excellent off-the-beaten-path motorbike route, the Lam Sơn Loop.

Although the land is still rural and cultivated with acres of corn and sugarcane, traffic and industry begin to encroach as the Ho Chi Minh Road ploughs north from Lam Sơn towards Ngọc Lặc and Cẩm Thủy. These two small towns are fine for a night and surrounded by limestone karst mountains, bamboo forests and pretty streams which hint at the magical scenery that lies west of here on the Limestone Loop and in Pù Luông Nature Reserve, which make a great detour, if you have time. If not, bed down and get some rest before the next – and final – leg of the Ho Chi Minh Road.

The Ho Chi Minh Road, Vietnam
The Ho Chi Minh Road through Nghệ An, the biggest province in Vietnam

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Cooking bánh cuốn, a northern speciality

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The tea hills of Thanh Chương

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The KM0 Monument at Tân Kỳ

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Lệ Lợi’s temple & tomb at Lam Sơn

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Section 8:

Cẩm Thủy→Cúc Phương→Hanoi | 150km

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Although the limestone scenery, including forest-covered karst pillars rising from the rice paddies cloaked in mist, continues along the Ho Chi Minh Road for most of the final 150km from Cẩm Thủy to the outskirts of Hanoi, it is spoiled somewhat by the steady increase in truck traffic and pollution from the numerous quarries and cement plants along the highway. Just north of Cẩm Thủy, an interesting detour is due southeast to Thành Nhà Hồ, the impressive remains of an ancient citadel dating from the early 15th century. Otherwise, continuing north on the Ho Chi Minh Road, it’s not long before the asphalt soars on an elevated platform through the jungles of Cúc Phương, declared Vietnam’s first national park by Ho Chi Minh himself, in 1962. The road follows the course of the turquoise Bưởi River as it swerves between rocky peaks. For a break, take the small lane due west along a pretty tributary to Thác Mây (Cloud Waterfall), where there are some good bathing pools and a cluster of homestays.

The procession of limestone hills continues on both sides of the road as the route heads further north, getting closer to journey’s end at the capital. The road surface is generally good and the riding is fine, but you won’t want to spend too much time lingering over this section, because the dust kicked up by passing trucks is unpleasant and the air quality is increasingly poor the closer you get to Hanoi. The last 50km to Xuân Mai and Hòa Lạc can be a very nasty and dirty ride indeed. Turn off the Ho Chi Minh Road at the big intersection at Hòa Lạc and head east on the wide Thăng Long Highway leading straight into the heart of the capital city. If the ride through the industrial suburbs left you feeling depressed, the sight of central Hanoi with its considerable charm is certain to lift your spirits.

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The Ho Chi Minh Road soaring through Cúc Phương National Park

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Breakfast in Cẩm Thủy

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The Bưởi River seen from the Ho Chi Minh Road

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Bicycles on the Ho Chi Minh Road

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The industrial outskirts of Hanoi

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  1. Damian says:
    December 15, 2024 at 11:07 AM

    Hi Tom,

    I’m riding from Saigon to Hanoi the end of Feb/beginning of March. Will the weather be decent on the Ho Chi Minh Road at that time?

    Thank you,
    Damian

    1. Tom says:
      December 16, 2024 at 11:17 AM

      Hi Damian,

      Please take a look at this section of the guide and scroll down to ‘Weather & Time of Year’ for some information about conditions on the Ho Chi Minh Road.

      Best,

      Tom

      1. Damian says:
        December 16, 2024 at 3:01 PM

        Thanks Tom. I guess you take your chances in the North at that time of year?

        1. Tom says:
          December 17, 2024 at 3:09 AM

          Hi Damian,

          It’s probably a guide idea to take a look at my Vietnam Weather Guide for more information about conditions at different times of year in different parts of the country. And you can also refer to my specific guides for northern routes and check the section in each guide that refers to the weather conditions.

          Best,

          Tom

          1. Damian says:
            December 17, 2024 at 7:52 PM

            Thanks Tom. Appreciate it!

            Damian

  2. Benjamin (Ben ) Wilson, Sr. says:
    September 30, 2024 at 1:46 AM

    The Ho Chi Minh Road is a fabulous presentation, Tom.

    All the fabulous food is driving me crazy in a pleasant way !!! Thank you sincerely,

    Ben Wilson, Sr USA

    1. Tom says:
      September 30, 2024 at 3:19 AM

      Thanks, Ben.

      Tom

  3. Natasha Fearnley says:
    September 18, 2024 at 7:05 PM

    Hi Tom,

    Is it possible for you to share your google map with my email address so that I can download it to my own maps for use in Vietnam? I am happy to pay for it.

    Natasha

    1. Tom says:
      September 19, 2024 at 9:36 AM

      Hi Natasha,

      I have actually just finished completely rewriting and remapping this guide, and next week I will be republishing it with the option to buy the map and PDF for offline use. This will be ready by the end of next week (27 September).

      If you are interested in this, you can subscribe for free here and you will get an email notification when the map & guide package is available.

      Best,

      Tom

  4. Vincent Bugar says:
    June 11, 2024 at 9:26 PM

    Hi Tom,

    Next year I am planning to do a small section of this route by scooter. I was thinking about doing it from north to south. From Hanoi I would take a train to Hue, where I would rent a scooter, and from there I would go first to A Luoi, from A Luoi down all the way to Buon Ma Thuot(following your route, just backwards :-)), from Buon Ma Thuot leaving the Ho Chi Minh road for the coast at Nha Trang(I leave the bike here). I am doing it this way, because my plane will land in Hanoi, and after the journey I would like to spend a couple of days on the beach in Nha Trang, and chill. From Nha Trang I would take a train to Saigon, where I would finish my vacation. What are your thoughts on my plans? Would I miss the most intresting sections doing it this way? Thanks in advance for your reply!

    Vincent

    1. Tom says:
      June 13, 2024 at 11:21 AM

      Hi Vincent,

      That’s sounds fine to me. The best sections of the Ho Chi Minh Road for scenery are Kon Tom all the way to Pho Chau, so you’ll b covering enough of that.

      I will be publishing a brand new guide to the Ho Chi Minh Road in the coming weeks, so if you want to get an email notification about that, you can subscribe (free) here.

      Best,

      Tom

      1. Vincent Bugar says:
        June 13, 2024 at 11:40 AM

        Hi Tom,

        Thank you very much! If it’s okay I’d like to ask one more question. Do you think that late March and early April is okay for my specific route? What I mean is that I want to avoid rain and cold weather as much as possible. I don’t mind the heat so much.

        Thanks

        Vince

        1. Tom says:
          June 13, 2024 at 12:48 PM

          Hi Vincent,

          Yes, that is a good time of year – in fact, I just rode the entire Ho Chi Minh Road in April.

          Best,

          Tom

  5. Rufus Longsdon says:
    July 9, 2023 at 2:36 AM

    Hi Tom,

    Thanks for the very informative guide. Are there any areas on the route to avoid for police checkpoints?

    Very best,

    Rufus

    1. Tom says:
      July 10, 2023 at 1:08 AM

      Hi Rufus,

      Well, as the Ho Chi Minh Road is nearly 2,000km long, there will likely be places along the route that you may see police or traffic police. But the road is open for everyone – Vietnamese or foreign – to ride, so there are no official ‘checkpoints’ as such. Just ride it and enjoy it 🙂

      Best,

      Tom

  6. Ryan says:
    March 9, 2023 at 11:59 PM

    Hey Tom,

    I am hoping to do a section of the HCMR around April 20th or so, here is my tentative route.

    Day 1 – Thanh Hoa out to Lam Son, then South to Pho Chau (257 km)
    Day 2 – Pho Chau down to Phong Nha (177 km)
    Day 3 – Phong Nha to Khe San (241 km)
    Day 4 – Khe San to Da Nang via QL14 (328 km)

    What’s your knowledge of the weather conditions for this part of the country in late April? Should I be ready for showers? Secondly, do you think there is something I can alter to add a little more to Day 2 so I can shave off some km for Day 4? Thanks!

    1. Tom says:
      March 13, 2023 at 1:38 AM

      Hi Ryan,

      Weather conditions toward the end of April should generally be OK, but there might still be some showers around, and if it does rain it can still be surprisingly cold on the high passes. Read more in my Weather Guide.

      If you want to ride more kms on Day 2, you could continue past Phong Nha all the way to Long Son where there’s at least one hotel and apparently another (better) one, too.

      Best,

      Tom

  7. mayorofnow says:
    March 9, 2023 at 2:57 PM

    An update on lodging near Khe Sanh:

    Khanh Phuong opened a sister location called Khanh Phuong Luxury. I had planned to stay there, but even though it’s a new hotel, the sheets were dirty and you could hear bad karaoke being blasted from across the street.

    I ended up staying at Retro Glamping. It’s a set of cabins and a coffee shop that opened just outside of Khe Sanh (coming from Hue/A Luoi). They’re pretty basic: a camping pad on a raised platform with a puffy blanket and two pillows. There’s a shower stall with a toilet. There’s no sink inside, but the water isn’t potable here anyway. Even though it’s on the highway, it seemed quieter and cleaner than the hotels in the city. The people were very friendly, and the coffee shop has a panoramic view of the canyon during daylight.

    I think there are six cabins, total. They’re not on Airbnb yet, but the owner said they will be eventually.

    It’s an acceptable accommodation in a part of Vietnam that doesn’t seem to have any good options.

    1. Tom says:
      March 14, 2023 at 12:33 AM

      Hi,

      Thanks for the update. Retro Glamping sounds like a good place to overnight – I will try to check it out next time I’m in the area.

      Best,

      Tom

  8. Hieu Dovan says:
    January 11, 2023 at 7:36 AM

    Hi Tom,

    I have been following the comments on this wonderful site. Thank you for your service.

    I will be riding solo on the Ho Chi Minh Road north from Danang February 2023 on a Honda Blade. How is the gas situation along the way? Do I need to carry a gas container to be safe? I assume that gas containers are available in Vietnam.

    Chúc mừng năm mới Tân Mão.

    1. Tom says:
      January 11, 2023 at 12:13 PM

      Hi Hieu,

      Thanks for your comment.

      The only section of the Ho Chi Minh Road that you need to consider bringing extra gas is the Western Ho Chi Minh Road between Khe Sanh and Phong Nha. There are now at least two gas stations on that stretch, at Long Son, which is roughly half way. However, they are not always open so you can’t really rely on it. As long as you fill up at Khe Sanh you should only need to bring one 1.5ltr bottle of gas with you – you can fill up an empty bottle at the gas stations in Khe Sanh. Also, take a look at sections 4 & 5 of this guide for a bit more detail.

      Bear in mind that it can be surprisingly cold and grey on the Ho Chi Minh Road north of Danang to Hanoi at that time of year!

      Best,

      Tom

      1. Hieu Dovan says:
        January 12, 2023 at 12:36 AM

        Thank you so much for your prompt response. I will look for a 1.5 liter gas container in Danang. BTW, I forgot that I had used my other email, hieusha@gmail.com, to subscribe to your posts. Thanks again. /Hieu

  9. Paul says:
    January 5, 2023 at 9:00 AM

    Hi Tom,

    How feasible is it for an experienced solo rider to get from Phong Nha to Hanoi in 2 days? Ive been looking at maps and your plan here and was wondering if I could do Phong Nha to Cam Thuy in a big day, bailing at Tan Ky overnight if I have to. Leave early the following morning for Hanoi and getting in at a reasonable time in the afternoon.

    I understand fatigue, weather, traffic and road conditions can all come into play but do you reckon it’s worth a go?

    Thanks very much for putting all this together, you’ve done a magnificent job.

    1. Tom says:
      January 8, 2023 at 12:02 PM

      Hi Paul,

      From Phong Nha to Hanoi on the Ho Chi Minh Road is roughly 550-580km. Because about 2/3 of that is pretty quiet, well-made road you can keep an average speed on 50-70kmph (70 is the limit for motorbikes). However, that doesn’t include stops for anything – gas, food, drink, tiredness, mechanical problems, weather etc.

      The short answer is yes, if you don’t have any issues you can ride from Phong Nha to Hanoi in 2 days, but they will be long days, and the closer you get to Hanoi, the worse the traffic (and scenery) gets. But the first half from Phong Nha goes through some terrific scenery.

      I’ve actually ridden this route in 2 days twice before. It was long and tiring, but doable.

      Best,

      Tom

      1. Paul says:
        January 19, 2023 at 6:40 AM

        Thanks very much for your help Tom

  10. Raina says:
    January 1, 2023 at 4:49 AM

    Hi Tom,

    The site is amazing- I love your take on the highlights of Vietnam being the little things, rather than the “sights” it is how we approach travel everywhere.

    We (partner and I) are planning out Vietnam trip for April and May this year. We are travelling roughly North to South. Because of the current 30 day visa situation we need to fit in a visa run mid trip (geographically as well as temporarily). For us this means crossing at Lao Bao between our time in Phong Nha and Hue. We are not bike riders, and would not be comfortable being pillion passengers for this length of ride either. Do you think that it is “worth it” to hire a car and driver in Phong Nha to drive the HCM road to Khe Sanh (or Lao Bao), overnight there, do a visa run and the either the same driver or a new one or bus on to Hue. How long would you guess it would take in a car between PN and KS? About 5 hrs + stops? Really just wondering if it is worth trying to turn this hassle (visa run) into a pleasurable part of the trip vs sticking to conventional transport via the coast via Dong Ha?

    Many thanks

    1. Tom says:
      January 1, 2023 at 9:49 AM

      Hi Raina,

      Thank you for your kind words.

      The short answer is yes I think it’s worth taking the Western Ho Chi Minh Road from Phong Nha to Khe Sanh for your visa run to Lao Bao. That stretch of road is one of the best in Vietnam and the scenery is fabulous – also April/May should be a good time of year for weather. Just look at the photos that illustrate this route to get an idea of what it’s like.

      Unfortunately, being inside a car just isn’t the same experience as being ‘outside’ on a bike. But it will still be worth it. I’m pretty sure if you contact Ben at Phong Nha Farmstay, he’ll either be able to arrange something or he’ll know someone who can. In fact, he might even be able to get you some kind of open-top vehicle for the journey. You can mention me and Vietnam Coracle – we know each other. Of course, you’ll need to pay a certain amount for the trip. It’s a long way – around 250km on very mountainous roads, so it’s a full day in the car, including the stops you’ll want to make for viewing the landscape.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

      1. Raina says:
        January 1, 2023 at 10:29 AM

        Thank you very much

  11. Jean-David says:
    November 17, 2022 at 8:35 AM

    Hey! Quick update on the western HCM road, south of Phong Nha.
    This morning, the gas stations of Tang KY and Long Son were closed. Around 9/10am, so no real reason to be closed I guess.
    I was glad I brought 3 liters.
    Have a safe trip friends!

    1. Tom says:
      November 18, 2022 at 10:19 AM

      Hi Jean-David,

      Thank you for this update.

      There’s been a gasoline shortage in Vietnam recently, so that might be one reason why the gas stations weren’t open. I’m glad you bought gas with you so it didn’t spoil your trip.

      Thanks again,

      Tom

  12. Simon says:
    July 12, 2022 at 12:18 AM

    Hi Tom. In May I did a solo motorbike trip in Central Vietnam. The Ho Chi Minh road is spectacular. On the section Khe Sanh to Phong Nha I followed your advice about staying in Long Son as I’m 68 years old and knew that stretch of road would be too many hours in the saddle for me in one day. Plus I was in no hurry. Well the Duc Tuan hotel was a bit of a challenge. It was locked up tight and I had a bit of a drama trying to find someone to open up. It was pretty musty and certainly had an unused feel about it. The bed, as you noted, was hard. But I couldn’t be choosy and made the best of it. It served its purpose.
    A few weeks later I met a couple that had the same problem as me but couldn’t find anyone at all to open the hotel and give them a room. Despondent they continued on. But they didn’t have to go far! Around the corner to the North is a new place the Truong Thanh Hotel. Apparently it’s nicer than Duc Tuan. They paid $ 15 for a room. So now there’s a second option to break up that long ride.
    Truong Thanh Hotel in Long son. 0844870151. 0915256892.

    1. Tom says:
      July 12, 2022 at 3:18 AM

      Hi Simon,

      Thank you so much for this important update. It’s great to hear there’s another (better) accommodation choice on the Western Ho Chi Minh Road. I look forward to trying it myself sometime in the near future.

      Thanks again.

      Best,

      Tom

      1. Moritz says:
        August 3, 2022 at 4:50 PM

        Big thanks to you, Tom, for providing such comprehensive and helpful guides and to all the others for your additions.
        I just did the section from Prao to Phong Nha and stayed at the Truong Thanh Hotel in Long Son. I paid 300k for the room, which was very clean and modern and had a nice view towards the limestone hills. I had a great stay! The mattress was hard, but I tend to sleep well on those.
        Oh, by the way: the door at Duc Than was also open, however I did not have a look inside.

        1. Tom says:
          August 4, 2022 at 1:01 PM

          Hi Moritz,

          Thanks for that – great update about the hotel. Glad to hear it’s a decent one and that you enjoyed your road trip.

          (I prefer hard mattresses too!)

          Best,

          Tom

  13. MRS Y STRUMPHER says:
    February 23, 2022 at 12:53 PM

    Do you have this trip in reverse, from Hanoi to HCMC?

    1. Tom says:
      February 23, 2022 at 3:45 PM

      Hi Strumpher,

      Yes, you can follow this route in either direction. The map works both ways: Saigon to Hanoi or Hanoi to Saigon.

      Best,

      Tom

  14. don says:
    December 9, 2021 at 1:06 AM

    cam on, em

    thank you so much for such a wonderfully detailed and informative description, and photos. must have taken so much time to research and document all that

    sounds from your writing you had a wonderful time. although i can’t help but think that the enjoyment and wonder would have been doubled if you had shared the journey with someone (i would have loved to actually) because it seems from everything you did this by yourself. if so, that is sad really.

    very kindest regards

    don

    1. Tom says:
      December 9, 2021 at 3:44 AM

      Hi Don,

      Thanks. Yes, it’s a great road to explore. I have ridden it dozens of times: sometimes with friends or family, sometimes alone – each time it’s a new and different experience.

      Best,

      Tom

  15. iwona says:
    June 12, 2020 at 1:36 PM

    Hello 🙂 thx so much for this entry …
    I’m about to set off from Hanoi to the south solo by my Honda XR.
    Is there anything here on the > beach trail < down ?

    BTW : are you still in Vietnam ?
    Any answer will be appreciated really …it’s a bit of a challenge… exciting.
    Best,
    iwona

    1. Tom says:
      June 12, 2020 at 3:18 PM

      Hi Iwona,

      For the beach route please see my Coast Road Guide.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

  16. Bob Vermeulen says:
    May 29, 2020 at 3:59 AM

    Hi Tom
    The mostly uninspiring Section 2 has a great new 25 km road bypassing Buon Ho on the west side. After leaving Buon Ma Thuot at the H1 -1758 road marker turn right (there’s a big sign with direction “Pleiku”). The road is brand new and in perfect condition. It cuts through valleys, coffee- and pepperplantages. Most remarkle feature: end of may millions and millions white butterfly and it’s like riding through snow. About 9 km north of Buon Ho it connects with the original route again.

    1. Tom says:
      May 31, 2020 at 6:49 AM

      Hi Bob,

      Thanks for this update – I look forward to riding this new bypass next time I’m in the area. And, yes, I also remember passing through that section of the Ho Chi Minh Road during May and seeing the clouds of butterflies. Lovely.

      Tom

  17. Evan says:
    March 27, 2020 at 4:09 AM

    Great site with tons of precious informations. This is the best site ever
    In Western Nghe An, you’re missing a very interesting loop with Pumat Natural Park and then Pu Hoat, Pu Huong, Pu Hu, Xuan Lien and down to Puluong Nature Reserves. ( By flowing road number 48A, B and C ). This is something really off the beaten tracks and untouched by mass tourism at all. It’s good for your next discovery

    1. Tom says:
      March 28, 2020 at 1:52 AM

      Hi Evan,

      Thank you for the tip. That sounds like a fantastic ride. I have ridden around that area a few times and really liked but have never had the time to explore for more than a day or two. I hope to get up there sometime this year and spend some real time in the region.

      Tom

  18. Michael says:
    March 10, 2020 at 5:41 AM

    Love the site, such good information. I do have a question though that I cannot find an answer for (unless I missed it), we will be riding from Kon Tum to Hoi An, can you recommend anywhere to stop for lunch? Looks like it is about a 7-8 hour ride, so approx half way would be good 🙂

    1. Tom says:
      March 10, 2020 at 11:13 AM

      Hi Michael,

      If you’re going via the Ho Chi Minh Road then Dak Glei or Kham Duc are good options for a lunch stop.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

  19. Thuy says:
    February 21, 2020 at 1:58 AM

    Hi Tom!
    Thank you very much for the great guide. I wonder if the “Limestone Loop” is an actual place or it’s just the way you call landscape in Thanh Hóa?
    If it’s a real location, would you mind sharing with me its name in Vietnamese? I am planning a visit to Thanh Hóa this year 🙂

    1. Tom says:
      February 21, 2020 at 12:57 PM

      Hi Thuy,

      The ‘Limestone Loop’ is the name I’ve given to a motorbike route that I’ve written which explores the landscape in the west of Thanh Hoa Province and parts of Hoa Binh Province. You can read all about it (including a detailed map) on this page.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

  20. lauren says:
    December 30, 2019 at 7:11 AM

    Have you ever taken the route from Phuoc Long to Buon Ma Thuot that borders Cambodia? DT741?

    1. Tom says:
      December 30, 2019 at 1:26 PM

      Hi Lauren,

      Please see the comments section of this guide.

      Thanks,

      Tom

  21. Louis says:
    November 18, 2019 at 2:19 PM

    Hi Tom.
    Thanks a lot for putting together this guide. I’m shaping my holiday around it, and not regretting it.
    I would like to skip the surroundings of Hanoï. The experience of going through the surroundings of saigon were not something I wanna replicate.
    I was thinking of swinging by the Pù Luông Nature Reserve near the end of the route. Is there any town you know of around there that offers bike friendly connection to Hanoï ?

    Thanks again .

    1. Tom says:
      November 19, 2019 at 2:20 AM

      Hi Louis,

      Yes, it is a pain getting in and out of Saigon and Hanoi.

      When entering Hanoi from Pu Luong it’s best to take the Thang Long Highway west of the city. Take a look at this page for the route (as well as lots more about Pu Luong).

      Also, take a look at this page for more advice about riding in/out of the big cities.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

  22. Mikael Englund says:
    October 5, 2019 at 3:12 AM

    Hi Tom!

    I am currently in Dalat, had a wonderful drive going the backways from Saigon. My plan is to drive to Buon Ma Thuot tommorow and join The Ho Chi Minh guide up to Hanoi.
    Just read youre artikel about Cam Ranh Bay and wondering if its worth the drive from Dalat and then drive back to Buon Ma Thuot?

    //Mikael

    1. Tom says:
      October 6, 2019 at 4:20 AM

      Hi Mikael,

      You could do that – you can make a nice loop of it by using QL20-27-27B. But it’s a long detour if you’re just dropping down to the coast for that. So perhaps it’s better to save the beach for another time when you have more days to spare.

      Tom

  23. Nicolas Schepers says:
    May 7, 2019 at 3:18 AM

    Hi Tom,

    Thanks again for this great guide. We’re currently stationed in Dong Hoi, doubting if we should cycle a bit southward via the DT563, then join the QL15 at the crossroads in Rình Rình, Trường Sơn to move upward at the last leg of your favorite ‘5. WESTERN HO CHI MINH ROAD: Khe Sanh to Khe Gat’, then follow the HCM road all the way to make a pause in Vinh.

    My question: How are the areas for wild camping? We don’t have much budget for hotels/hostels but do have a tent. Is it easy to find a patch for a tent next to the road (especially in that first leg of the QL15, before the park) ?? And what about next to the park, can you find easy camping spots which do not cost a lot? Looking forward to bathing in the rivers there :D!

    Cheers,
    Nicolas & Lisa (Byebiking)

    1. Tom says:
      May 7, 2019 at 5:41 PM

      Hi Nicolas & Lisa,

      Yes, camping along that section of road is pretty good: partly because it’s so isolated and partly because the scenery is so good. So there are lots of potential campsites in scenic positions. You do have to be fairly careful when choosing a site though – try not to be conspicuous – for example, not visible from the road etc. Just don’t draw any attention to yourself.

      I hope you enjoy it and that the weather is suitable for camping.

      Tom

      1. Nicolas Schepers says:
        May 13, 2019 at 8:45 AM

        Hi Tom,

        Now in Phong Nha. Will attempt the Da Deo Pass tomorrow.

        The road condition is still very good and camping was indeed possible. However, two rangers saw us and urged us to pitch a tent at a nearby ranger station as a storm was coming. We also slept at a ranger station the day after. These guys are super friendly and are also OK with you stopping by for cooking or just making yourself a coffee. They offer you tea and fruit plus you could go to the toilet there.

        I would say this was the most beautiful ride we’ve done up until now (we did it in 2,5 days) and were even lucky to see a wild pack of Red-shanked douc monkeys.
        The weather is on and off, with occasional rain in some valleys but it’s making the temperature pleasant due to many clouds.

        Cheers!
        Nicolas

        1. Tom says:
          May 13, 2019 at 3:43 PM

          Hi Nicolas,

          Great to hear – sounds like a really fun time.

          I’m actually in Phong Nha now, too 🙂

          I hope you enjoy the route tomorrow.

          Tom

          1. Nicolas Schepers says:
            May 17, 2019 at 12:23 AM

            Ohh, only read that now unfortunately. Now doing a stopover in Vĩnh. Roads were beautiful up until now.

            Now to decide if we shall take the HCM road up to Ninh Bình or partly coastal road. Any suggestions?
            Thanks again

            1. Tom says:
              May 17, 2019 at 2:17 AM

              Well, unless you can find a way to stay on coastal back roads from Vinh, I would favour the HCM Road – because Highway 1 along the coast gets increasingly busy and dusty.

              If you do decide to stay on the coast, please let me know how it goes, as I will be heading that way soon myself.

              Thanks,

              Tom

              1. Nicolas Schepers says:
                May 30, 2019 at 12:23 PM

                Hi there,
                We pnly did a small part of the coast , which was nice. Especially around here 18.880134,105.670520

                We’re now in Cat Ba, going to Ha long but figuring out what road to take in the next 7 days before circling to Hanoi. Any ideas?

                Cheers

                1. Tom says:
                  May 30, 2019 at 12:51 PM

                  Hi Nicolas,

                  I was just on Cat Ba last week. After there I took my bike on the ferry from Gia Luan port on Cat Ba to Tuan Chau near Halong City – great journey. From there you can take road 279 up to Tu Don, then join QL1B to Bac Son where there are homestays. There are also loads of great little roads criss-crossing Lang Son and Bac Kan provinces. The scenery is fantastic, You could go to Ba Be Lake too. Also, instead of the horrible ride back into Hanoi, just put yourselves and your bike on the train from Lang Son at 11.30am – gets into Hanoi around 7.30.

                  Tom

    2. Justin says:
      May 18, 2019 at 8:58 AM

      Hi Nicolas & Lisa,

      Thank you for the great guide !! I am planning to a bike trip from Danang to Hanoi in July. I wonder if the weather is OK in July and would it be safe to travel alone using QL15 as I know this is the most remote area in Vietnam.

      1. Tom says:
        May 18, 2019 at 4:00 PM

        Hi Justin,

        Weather should be OK in July – hot, humid, sunny in the mornings but often clouding over in the afternoon for heavy showers.

        Yes, it’s safe to travel that road alone – just take care.

        I was just there again a couple of days ago – it’s glorious.

        Tom

      2. Nicolas Schepers says:
        May 30, 2019 at 2:44 PM

        No problems on the remoteness. It’s only really remote at Phong Nha park honestly. People here are genuinely friendly. Slept at Ranger stations, churches (very good place to sleep in Vietnam) and a gas station without any issues.

        Have fun!

  24. Jeremiah Rogers says:
    January 22, 2019 at 10:03 AM

    Thank you for the excellent guide. Quan bin hoa location on the map is here, a few hundred meters away. Also Minh Tu Hotel rates are from 400,000 VND now. Thank you again! Quán Bình Hoa
    Thôn Ba, Bố Trạch District, Quang Binh Province
    091 127 19 13
    https://maps.app.goo.gl/AqqUH

    1. Tom says:
      January 22, 2019 at 2:45 PM

      Hi Jeremiah,

      Thanks a lot for the update, I appreciate it.

      Tom

  25. Devin Smith says:
    January 7, 2019 at 6:36 AM

    Hi Tom,

    First I just wanted to say thank you for the guides! They have made my time in Vietnam a breeze so far with so much helpful insight about what to see along the way! I’m currently in Hue and have been riding up the coast since Saigon pretty much other than Da Lat. I really want to go on the West Ho Chi Minh highway to get away from the coast and seem something a bit different. Only thing is I’m worried about my bike. I bought it in Saigon, it’s clearly old and on replaced parts and I’ve had to replace two things on it already. I’m a bit nervous that in the more isolated areas you’ve talked about in the western side I won’t be able to easily find someone who can fix my bike. What are your thoughts on this? Is it still relatively easy in the isolated areas to find someone who can do the work?

    1. Tom says:
      January 7, 2019 at 7:08 AM

      Hi Devin,

      Well, it is isolated on the Western Ho Chi Minh Road between Khe Sanh and Phong Nha, but there are some villages along the way, and in Vietnam you’re never far from people who know how to fix bikes. You should definitely make sure your bike is in good working order before you head up there, but the worst case scenario if you were to have a break down on the Western Ho Chi Minh Road is simply that you’d need to wait for a bit by the roadside until some one comes by and you wave them down for help. People will almost certainly stop and try to fix the problem or give you a lift to someone, somewhere who can help you.

      Tom

  26. Roberto says:
    December 9, 2018 at 8:31 AM

    Hey Tom,

    Great guide as usual.

    Which route would you suggest me from Hanoi to Pho Chau?

    1. Tom says:
      December 10, 2018 at 4:11 AM

      Hi Roberto,

      You can just follow the route in this guide (see the map) – it goes west of Hanoi on the Thang Long Highway, then south on the Ho Chi Minh Road all the way to Pho Chau.

      Tom

  27. Michael says:
    August 17, 2018 at 10:11 AM

    Hi Tom,

    Thank you for the great blog with all the important information. Great work, keep it up.
    I was planning to follow mostly your description of the Ho Chi Minh Road in late November, early December. As I got only to weeks to ride it, I wanted to ask you if that is possible hurrying too much (maybe also with a little detour to a coast somewhere) and how the weather is going to be (especially in the central part, as I read there can be quite a lot of rain in autumn/winter). And if the weather might cause some serious delays.

    Thanks for the info.

    Michael

    1. Tom says:
      August 17, 2018 at 1:59 PM

      Hi Michael,

      It’s not really possible to ride all of the Ho Chi Minh Road in just one week, unless you ride all day, every day, but that wouldn’t be very fun. Also, at that time of year, the weather anywhere north of Danang can be quite grey, rainy and surprisingly cold, too.

      Therefore, I would suggest just riding the southern part of the Ho Chi Minh Road, from Saigon to Dannag. Or maybe this about the Coast Road, too.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

      1. Michael says:
        August 17, 2018 at 3:39 PM

        Hi Tom,

        Thanks for the reply. I meant to write two weeks. That should be possible, right? Even with the bad weather?

        Best,

        Michael

        1. Tom says:
          August 17, 2018 at 3:51 PM

          Hi Michael,

          Yes, two weeks is possible. The rain could slow you down, or if it’s really bad then it could close parts of the road between Prao and Phong Nha, because this section is very mountainous and therefore may suffer landslides and flooding in heavy rains.

          Tom

  28. Jess says:
    July 15, 2018 at 11:03 AM

    Hi Tom,

    I’m at the Bach Dai Dung Hotel in Pho Chau (end of Section 6) and I just want to point out that their minimum is now 170K – it’s posted on a sign at reception (next to their hourly rates…) so it’s not just me being ripped off – and I’m curious to know what your standard of an “okay hotel” is, as this sunless room is dirty, comes with stained sheets and pillows, has a broken AC and reeks of cigarette smoke. 😛 I think this might be the worst place I’ve stayed in three weeks of traveling through Vietnam!

    1. Tom says:
      July 17, 2018 at 5:51 AM

      Hi Jess,

      Thanks for the update.

      Yes, ‘OK’ means not great but will do for a night, and very cheap. If you want nicer accommodation it’s best to go to Minh Tu Hotel & Resort just out of town on the Ho Chi Minh Road, as mentioned in the guide.

      I hope the ride into Hanoi goes smoothly.

      Tom

  29. Tom McKeand says:
    June 1, 2018 at 11:49 PM

    Fantastic guide.
    I used this as the basis of a trip we took from Da Nang to Hanoi. We deviated in a few places to visit places I was keen to go to. The scenery was incredible, and the points of interest included on the map were really helpful.

    I could only find two things that may need updating – The Ho Citadel price is now 40,000VND when approaching from the South. Nobody seems to care about anything from East or West, and the North gate barrier was down but ignored by everybody.

    The Minh Tu hotel just outside Pho Chau was lovely, but we were initially put off when booking.com and agoda both showed no availability. Curiously we found the same hotel listed as Hai Thuong Eco Resort and reserved a room.

    Thanks again for all your hard working putting the guides on this website together, they have been really very helpful. I hope to test some more of them out in the future when I return to Vietnam! The extra detail and bits of history and cultural information are also very appreciated.

    Cheers (or should I say Mo, Hai, Ba, Zo?)
    Tom

    1. Tom says:
      June 2, 2018 at 6:32 AM

      Hi Tom,

      Great to hear about your road trip and that my site helped you out along the way. Thanks for the updates. Strange about the two different names for the same hotel – I think the other name was its previous incarnation and they just haven’t updated the information yet.

      And thank you for your kind donation to my site, I really appreciate it.

      Tom

    2. Allan Lee says:
      June 29, 2018 at 2:49 PM

      Would you be able to send me your rough itinerary you did for this trip and how long it took? I’m actually planning on doing the same thing for roughly a week idk if it would be doable what are your thoughts?

      1. Tom says:
        June 29, 2018 at 4:47 PM

        Hi Allan,

        You can spend as long or as little as you like riding this route. If you want to work out how long you might take to ride it, consider that an average spend on the Ho Chi Minh Road is about 50km per hour. The total distance between Saigon and Hanoi is 1,880km. So if you only have one week you’d need to cover over 250km a day. This is doable but it will be a lot of riding and quite tiring.

        I hope this helps,

        Tom

        1. Allan Lee says:
          June 30, 2018 at 1:20 AM

          Thanks for the response Tom!
          I figured this route would be a little overwhelming to accomplish in a matter of 10 or so days I have, so I was actually looking to start from Hoi An and finish in Hanoi. I have a rough draft of what I would be accomplishing each day. Would you be able to look into it and give me some feedback?
          https://drive.google.com/open?id=11CoZHXCm2hh8vTRPWhjvpdrKZXwc-AHW&usp=sharing
          The day 9 would be starting in Ninh Binh to Finish in Hanoi!

          1. Tom says:
            July 1, 2018 at 2:46 PM

            Hi Allan,

            Yes, that itinerary looks good, and the distances are comfortable for each day’s riding. It’s still a good idea to leave at a decent time in the mornings everyday, though, because you never know what the weather will be like, or any unforeseen circumstances, such as break downs, or bad road conditions.

            Tom

        2. Allan Lee says:
          June 30, 2018 at 2:06 AM

          Thanks for your response Tom!
          I only have about 10 days for a motorcycling journey, and I plan on starting from Hoi An to Hanoi just like Mr. McKeand did above. I actually have a rough draft of what I will be doing averaging 136km longest day riding would be 176km. I would like some advice on how this would be accomplished. Here is a link to my Trip Itinerary!
          https://drive.google.com/open?id=11CoZHXCm2hh8vTRPWhjvpdrKZXwc-AHW&usp=sharing

          1. Tom says:
            July 1, 2018 at 2:46 PM

            Hi Allan,

            Yes, that itinerary looks good, and the distances are comfortable for each day’s riding. It’s still a good idea to leave at a decent time in the mornings everyday, though, because you never know what the weather will be like, or any unforeseen circumstances, such as break downs, or bad road conditions.

            Tom

  30. Fabian says:
    April 16, 2018 at 3:53 AM

    Dear Tom,
    thanks a lot for this and all the other guides on your website.
    If it wasn’t for them, I probably would’ve never gotten the idea to do some motorbike trips through Vietnam.
    I started off with riding through the Central highlands along the Truong Son Dong, went through parts of the Golden Loop and finished the journey with the Western Ho Chi Minh Road.
    Just to let you know: Between Khe Sanh and Phong Nha there is a new gas station now in Cầu Tăng Ký, at the QL15 just north of the crossing with the DT10.
    Best regards
    Fabian

    1. Tom says:
      April 16, 2018 at 5:59 AM

      Hi Fabian,

      Thanks very much for the update. I’m actually on the Ho Chi Minh Road near Khe Sanh right now so I’ll be able to update the guide soon.

      Great to hear that you enjoyed your road trip.

      Tom

  31. Dan says:
    April 9, 2018 at 12:57 PM

    Hey, I’m a novice rider (some experience with dirt bikes on friends farms ~5 years ago) and I’m planning on taking the trip from Ho Chi Minh City to Hanoi in a couple of months.

    I want to make sure I’m doing this as safely as possible, so I’ve decided to take this route and completely avoid Highway 1 as I don’t feel confident riding it. That said, what are the main areas you’d think I would have to look out for on the Ho Chi Minh road?

    I’m planning on keeping a steady pace at 30-40 km/h and purchasing some proper motorcycling gear, with this in mind am I going the right way about making the trip as safe as possible?

    1. Tom says:
      April 9, 2018 at 3:10 PM

      Hi Dan,

      Well, the first hour or so getting out of Saigon is always pretty bad. You can leave very early in the morning or late at night to avoid it, or anytime of day on a Sunday. After Dong Xoai the Ho Chi Minh Road really opens up, but between Buon Me Thuot and Kon Tum there are a fair amount of trucks and buses on the road, so be careful. After Kon Tum it’s great riding and light traffic for most of the way until you get beyond Cam Thuy in the north, then the traffic and the trucks start to increase as you get closer to Hanoi, making the last couple of hours pretty grim. But ride slowly and carefully for those sections and you should be fine. In general, outside of the large cities, riding in Vietnam is not so bad, but in the big cities it can be very chaotic if you’re not used to it.

      You should be aware that many of the road rules you’re familiar with from your home country will not apply – or at least people don’t follow them – when in Vietnam. Don’t assume anything and always stay alert. It might seem difficult for the first few days, but after that you will get used to it and start feeling much more comfortable.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

  32. Ashley says:
    January 30, 2018 at 9:35 PM

    Hi Tom,
    A technical question this time.
    Do you know we can download your google maps route to our phone so we use it offline or at least have it saved for future use or ease??

    1. Tom says:
      January 31, 2018 at 12:45 AM

      Hi Ashley,

      First get the Maps.me app on your phone.

      Then open one of my guides (like the Ho Chi Minh Road guide) on the browser on your phone. Click on my map in the guide. Click the map title (which is usually at the bottom of the screen on mobile). Then click the three vertical dots at the top of the screen. This will open some options. Click ‘Download to KML’ and ‘Open’. This should open the map in the Maps.me app which means you can follow it offline.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

      1. Ashley says:
        January 31, 2018 at 3:55 AM

        Hi Tom, Still having a little trouble. I have map.me using on an Apple 7. I am on the map through safari. At the top of the map there is the 3 dots in a < symbol. Which if you click gives you the options to share to social media or messages.
        If I view in a larger map and login with google it doesn't help either.
        So essentially I cant find the download to KML anywhere.
        Thoughts?

        1. Ashley says:
          January 31, 2018 at 3:56 AM

          Sorry – forget that – Got it resolved.

          1. Tom says:
            January 31, 2018 at 4:02 AM

            🙂 Good to hear you got it sorted.

            Tom

  33. Ashley says:
    January 16, 2018 at 1:27 AM

    Hi Tom,

    This website is fantastic and you deserve a lot of credit for what you have done!
    I am off on ride from Hanoi to HCMC in 3 weeks. Its all planned and we will be following your routes the majority of the way.
    I just wanted to ask if there has been any new things to be aware of. For example roadworks, a landslide, a recommendation to take a different route because of the time of year etc.

    Thanks,

    1. Tom says:
      January 16, 2018 at 11:15 AM

      Hi Ashley,

      I haven’t heard of any particular problems with road conditions on the Ho Chi Minh Road recently. If there are any landslides they’re most likely to be on the Western Ho Chi Minh Road between Phong Nha and Khe Sanh, so it’s a good idea to ask in Phong Nha about road conditions before you start that leg of the journey.

      Other than that, just bear in mind that this time of year is the winter in northern Vietnam, so anywhere between Hanoi and Hue could be surprisingly cold and grey.

      I hope you enjoy the ride,

      Tom

      1. Ashley says:
        January 17, 2018 at 2:19 AM

        Thanks Tom. Yes I have been checking the forecast and I didn’t realise how cool it might be, so we will certainly be keeping warm.
        Didn’t realise it would be grey though. Hopefully the sunshine and brightness is over us for the most of our journey.

        Kind Regards

      2. James says:
        March 13, 2018 at 1:26 AM

        Hello Tom – Amazing site and thanks for your contribution. My question is this stretch of Western HCM road from Phong Nha to Khe Sanh. You called it Route 9 or Highway 9. You said, “Don’t go east on 9 go west on 9. I can’t find 9 on any maps, including yours. Any suggestions or trust that it’s there? Thank you Sir! James

        1. Tom says:
          March 14, 2018 at 3:13 PM

          Hi James,

          Can you highlight exactly where I say ‘Don’t go east on 9 go west on 9’? I don’t recall writing that anywhere.

          Thanks,

          Tom

  34. frany says:
    January 7, 2018 at 5:56 PM

    Hi Tom, thanks for your amazing homepage. I spend four weeks on bike in vietnam and am at tam coc, ninh binh at the moment. I want to take it into laosvand ride a month there. Do you have any Information on border crossings at na meo, nam can or trau treo? I have 3 days left on my visa and strugel to find uptodate information…
    Thanks in advance,
    Frany

    1. Tom says:
      January 7, 2018 at 6:04 PM

      Hi Frany,

      I don’t have any specific information about those border crossings, but as far as I know they are open and you can get Laos visas at the border. However, I would check first. Maybe try searching the Vietnam Back Roads Facebook group for some more information.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

  35. Megan says:
    December 5, 2017 at 9:29 PM

    Hi Tom,

    Thank you so much for sharing your motorbike travels in Vietnam. It has made planning very easy. That being said I have one question.

    We are flying into Hanoi and planning on buying motorbikes and heading south through the central part. We are hoping to actually skip the northern section. Therefore, are there trains that allow motorbikes from Hanoi to Pho Chau where we want to start or will there be motorbikes for sale in Pho Chau? If its a no to both than I guess we’ll have to start in Hanoi and travel down south to Prao where we plan to head east to Hoi An.

    Cheers,

    Megan

    1. Tom says:
      December 6, 2017 at 2:38 AM

      Hi Megan,

      I’m afraid it is a ‘no’ to both. However, you can send your bike on the train from Hanoi to Vinh and then head inland to meet the Ho Chi Minh Road at Pho Chau. But remember that your bike will usually take at least 2 days to arrive at its destination. More about that here.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

  36. Hai Nguyen says:
    November 3, 2017 at 7:57 AM

    Hi Tom,
    I just came back from one month trip from Bình Thạnh to Hà Giang (Mã Pí Lèng Pass) via QL14,QL15, QL6, QL12(Sìn Hồ),QL 4D (Sapa), 4C (Mường Khương) then went back to HCM city via QL34, QL 4A, 4B, QL 10 and QL1. The Phan Rang-Cà Ná section(đường ven biển Ninh Thuận) has stunning scenic where the rocks meet the ocean.
    Your guides are absolutely helpful.
    There is no need for gas reserve for the Khe Sanh- Phong Nha section now because there are 3 more full services gas stations spacing out evenly along the route. And there are more settlement of people also! So no more “vắng người”.
    Thanks Tom.

    1. Tom says:
      November 3, 2017 at 8:04 AM

      Hi Hai,

      Great to hear you enjoyed your road trip. I’m just on my way back to Saigon too after a 2 month trip.

      Thanks for the updates about the gas stations – good to know there’s plenty on that route now.

      Tom

    2. David H says:
      January 10, 2018 at 1:44 PM

      The route between Khe Sahn and Phong Nha is an incredible road and landscape, I feel privileged to have ridden it. In fact, I did it twice in three weeks, first with my son then after he had returned home, I had to travel back south, so I went back to Phong Nha to ride it solo. I had to wait in Phong Nha for 3 days for it to stop raining but was so worth it. Watch out for the gravel on most of the corner, forces you to go wide so adjust riding style appropriately. Just to clarify about the petrol stations so no one gets caught out, there’s the one Tom mentions 23kms from Khe Sahn, the one in Long Son and between them a brand new one about 25kms from Long Son. Section 4 from Khe Sanh to Prao is also an incredible piece of road without the damn gravel in the corners (except for the tar seal section close to Prao), scenery not quite as spectacular but very close…

      1. Tom says:
        January 10, 2018 at 1:51 PM

        Hi David,

        Glad you enjoyed the ride and thanks for the updates.

        Tom

  37. Lewis says:
    August 15, 2017 at 10:15 AM

    I just arrived in a loui tonight and the same thing happened. Tried all the larger places and they all said no and they didn’t look busy at all. A small place behind the petrol station finally said yes but wanted to charge 250k. I got her down to 200k but it was really weird.

    1. Tom says:
      August 15, 2017 at 10:29 AM

      Hi Lewis,

      That’s very strange. I’ll be there in a few weeks so I’ll see what happens.

      Tom

  38. Brian says:
    August 1, 2017 at 2:57 PM

    Hi Tom.

    What a wealth of info on your site. I booked a last minute 6 week trip and am planning on buying a bike to ride up the country – may go for your classic route. Any notes on proper mapping for the routes? Is it easier than I think as far as the logistics go?
    Also, as far as gear, should I bother bringing a leather (old style motorcycle jacket) with me? And you think I’d be okay with some high-top sneakers for the trek? Having a tough time sorting out my gear.
    I have so many other questions, but I will try and find the answers rather than having you do my work!

    I leave tomorrow, pretty excited and hopefully prepared.

    Best,

    Brian

    1. Tom says:
      August 2, 2017 at 5:42 AM

      Hi Brian,

      For mapping, you can use Google Maps, openstreetmap, or maps.me using data on your phone – buy a local sim card when you get to Vietnam. Google Maps doesn’t work offline, but maps.me does. You can follow my route by exporting any of my route maps from google to maps.me.

      It can get cold in the highlands and mountains so make sure you have at least one set of cold-ish weather clothing. Also, get rain gear when you arrive, and a big bin bag to wrap your luggage in when it rains. Sneakers are fine for trekking.

      Rather than buying a bike randomly, it’s a much better, safer, reliable, and more convenient idea to get your bike from one of the reputable bike rental places. Rent a Bike Vietam, Tigit Motorbikes, Style Motorbikes, Flamingo, and Dragon Bikes all offer good quality, reliable bikes, and when you finish, you can give them back in Hanoi.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

  39. Carly says:
    July 17, 2017 at 5:38 PM

    Hello! I plan to ride solo from Hanoi to HCM in about a week. Would you recommend using your guide backwards to help me with this route? Or are there any other websites/guides out there travelling north-south that you would recommend? Thanks!

    – Carly

    1. Tom says:
      July 18, 2017 at 1:28 AM

      Hi Carly,

      Yes, you can use this guide backwards. But please note that one week to complete this route is not very long: the total distance is 1,880km, so you will be riding at least 200km each day.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

  40. Nadine Shemilt says:
    June 1, 2017 at 8:10 AM

    Just wanted to say Thanks!! Your guide was amazing really helpful to pre-load the google maps into our phone and set out on the road. We just finished 2 days ago and was incredible!

    Just a couple notes for updates. The construction to Cam Thuy is pretty much done now so it was only around 20 minutes of construction so really not a bad road to pass through. There is also a new hotel in Khe Sanh called the Green Hotel.

    In A Louie though we had a unique experience where every single hotel or guesthouse was full and didn’t have a room available for us around 330 pm, even guesthouses that didn’t look busy at all, so at 5 pm we had to drive all the way to Hue to get a room for the night (we were worried about the same thing happening on the way to Khe Sanh. It was very odd, almost like the hotels didn’t want us to stay with them. Otherwise, turned out well because we traveled the Hai Van Pass loop as well.

    1. Tom says:
      June 1, 2017 at 11:15 AM

      Hi Nadine,

      Great to hear you enjoyed your road trip. Thanks for the updates – that’s really useful for me and other readers.

      Strange about the guest houses – I have heard of similar situations, but it’s very rare indeed.

      Tom

  41. François says:
    May 26, 2017 at 12:07 PM

    Hi Tom,
    Just completed the Khe Sanh to Phong Nha section yesterday. Amazing ride but it rained for 7 hours out of 8. Still it was qui te a nice atmosphere riding alone in the mist and rain! Just wanted to point out that there is now a gas station around the town of Long Ky ( if i recall the name correctly ). Did not stop myself but it seemed open with a car and motorbike at the pumps. Might be useful for others. I think i will continue on the hcm road to Hanoï as i have heard Ninh Binh was quite touristy and a bit disappointing. What is your view ob this? Thanks again for your super useful information!

    1. Tom says:
      May 26, 2017 at 12:15 PM

      Hi Francois,

      Thanks for pointing that out – I think that’s probably the gas station in Long Son (also marked Troung Son) that I mention in Section 5 of this guide.

      Yes, I agree about Ninh Binh – the landscape is lovely but it’s ruined by mass tourism and mass industry. The limestone landscape on the Ho Chi Minh Road and Pu Luong Nature Reserve is just as nice but nowhere near as touristy.

      I hope the rain abates,

      Tom

      1. François says:
        May 26, 2017 at 12:36 PM

        Hey Tom,
        thanks again for the great advice i will follow it.
        i did indeed fill up at the station you mentioned in Long son. However there was also another one in
        Tang Ky, a bit earlier on the road. It is this one i wa refering too. Sorry for the mispell !
        Have a great day

        1. Tom says:
          May 26, 2017 at 1:50 PM

          Oh really? Well, that’s great news for motorbikers. Thanks again for the update 🙂

          Tom

  42. Jono says:
    April 1, 2017 at 5:54 PM

    Hey Tom,

    first of all thank you so much for your incredible blog and website. Never have I ever seen something so helpful for planing my journeys.
    I`ve got one questions left though, since I don`t have too much time and still would prefer not to rush I decided to start my trip from Hoi An, jump on to the Classic Route and go to Hanoi from there. Since I don`t want to miss out on the central highlands completely I thought that I should make a short trip towards the direction of Kon Tum first, just wondering how far. Is it more the way itself that is worth seeing or is it the place Kon Tum itself?

    Thanks a lot!

    1. Tom says:
      April 2, 2017 at 12:25 AM

      Hi Jono,

      Thanks. It’s great to hear that my site has be helpful to you while planning your trip.

      Although the ride to Kon Tom is scenic and the town itself is an appealing place for a night or two, you will still get a lot of even better highland scenery if you simply start the Classic Route from Hoi An and head north. Once you head inland from Hue and join the Ho Chi Minh Road you will get your fill of mountain scenery, so there’s no need to backtrack down to Kon Tum and the beginning of your road trip 🙂

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

      1. Lewis says:
        August 15, 2017 at 10:19 AM

        I just wanted to give a little shout out to Vietnam phuot homestay in Kon Tum. I spent one night at the recommendation and then found this place and it was ridiculously hospitable and sweet. Great food and free tours around kon tum included. I would recommend anyone travelling through to go there.

        1. Tom says:
          August 15, 2017 at 10:31 AM

          Hi Lewis,

          Thanks for the recommendation – it looks like a great little place.

          Tom

  43. Suzie Tyler says:
    March 28, 2017 at 8:10 AM

    Hi Tom

    First of all we just want to say a huge THANK YOU for your blog, we have been following your Classic route and it has been absolutely fantastic and has made our trip unforgettable and the best experience of our travels so far!
    Just a quick question for you if that’s ok, we are heading to Ha Long Bay rather than Hanoi, and are unfortunately running out of days, where would you suggest we leave the Ho Chi Minh road and head across to Ha Long Bay? We are currently in Phong Nha and heading to Pho Chau now. We really only have 2 days to get to Ha Long Bay after today.

    Thanks so much!

    Best wishes
    Suzie and Dan

    1. Tom says:
      March 28, 2017 at 12:20 PM

      Hi Suzie & Dan,

      Great to hear that you’re enjoying your road trip.

      Unfortunately, there’s no easy option for riding across from the Ho Chi Minh Road to Hai Phong (for Ha Long Bay). But you could try turning east from Lam Son. Bear in mind that some of these roads are Red River Delta lanes that can get quite beaten up by all the trucks. But once you get nearer the coast the roads should get better – although the traffic will probably still be heavy. Another option is to turn east at Yen Lac (further up the Ho Chi Minh Road) and go via Ninh Binh.

      Good luck,

      Tom

  44. Tom says:
    March 8, 2017 at 5:55 AM

    Hi Tom, me and my girlfriend are riding from Saigon to Hanoi (possibly Sapa if there’s time) and have been using your guide and found it amazingly helpful. We did our first stop in Mui Ne and used your Saigon escape route guid to get there and loved the coastal road, then we did the route up to De Lat where we are know. Im looking at your Ho Chi Minh route guide for the next bit as we want to go to Buon Ma Thuot then Kon Tum but after this we would like to head to Hoi An. Do you think its possible to do the route from Kon Tum to Hoi An in a day and what route should we take? If its not possible where would you recommend we stay for a night?
    Thanks
    Tom

    1. Tom says:
      March 8, 2017 at 3:30 PM

      Hi Tom,

      Have you considered taking the Truong Son Dong Road between Dalat, Buon Ma Thuot, Kon Tun instead? It’s a fabulous ride, scenic, good roads, quiet – all in all a lot nicer than taking that particular section of the Ho Chi Minh Road. Just a thought, but take a look at this guide if you’re interested.

      You probably could ride Kon Tum to Hoi An in one day if you started early in the morning and rode all day, but it’s a much better idea to take two days instead. Take the Ho Chi Minh Road from Kon Tum to Kham Duc and stay there a night (it’s a good ride). Then stay on the Ho Chi Minh Road from Kham Duc to Thanh My (another good ride) and turn right (due east) on road QL14B to Danang/Hoi An. (An alternative route is to take road 14E east from Kham Duc down to Hoi An).

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

  45. Peter Link says:
    February 13, 2017 at 7:08 AM

    I used your guide for my cycling trip along the HCM HW, it was very helpful, thanks a lot and it was a great trip. I thought you might be interested in my short video, that I made. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kcDNYAgkho
    Next summer I want to do the north east maybe approaching from Kunming.

    1. Tom says:
      February 14, 2017 at 1:23 PM

      Hi Peter,

      Thanks. I’m happy to hear you had a good time on your bicycle trip.

      Tom

  46. Silver says:
    January 29, 2017 at 11:59 AM

    Thank you so much! This webpage has been our Vietnam motorbiking bible over the period of one month, and perhaps another few weeks if we’re going to do the north loops. You’ve helped us have the time of our lives!

    1. Tom says:
      January 29, 2017 at 12:07 PM

      Hi Silver,

      Thanks! It’s wonderful to hear that you’re having such a good time in Vietnam and that my guides have helped you too.

      I hope you do stay for another month and continue to enjoy your road trip in the north.

      Tom

  47. Lynn says:
    January 27, 2017 at 6:01 AM

    Hi Tom,

    I read that the 100km stretch from Phong Nha to Pheo (Tan Ap) is said to be the most scenic by some people.

    I’m planning to go as far as Phong Nha by motorbike to explore the caves for a day or two from Hue via Khe San, with a overnight stop at Long Son. After Phong Nha, I’ll be taking the same route back to Hue as I will have to reach Da Nang eventually for my flight back (will break the route over a couple of days).

    Say if i got time on my hand, I wonder if it will be worth the effort to continue riding from Phong Nha to Pheo (Tan Ap) and then riding back down the same route to Phong Nha- Hue- Da Nang (over a couple of days). Thus, do you think that the extra 100km will be worth it and if there are any hostels in Tan Ap to stay the night?

    Thanks!

    1. Tom says:
      January 27, 2017 at 7:51 AM

      Hi Lynn,

      Yes, the 100km from Phong Nha to Pheo is very scenic, but it is probably not quite as scenic as the Khe Sanh to Phong Nha section, and it is also busier than the Khe Sanh to Phong Nha section. So, if you have enough time then sure you should ride Phong Nha to Pheo, but if you don’t have enough time that is not a big disappointment 🙂

      Bear in mind that if you are planning on riding this route during the Tet Lunar New Year holidays, then Phong Nha and the roads to the caves may be extremely busy. But any other time of year it should be very quiet.

      I hope you enjoy the ride,

      Tom

  48. Amaury says:
    January 2, 2017 at 11:17 AM

    Hi Tom,

    My friend and I just did the Ho Chi Minh Road. It was fabulous! Even if most of the time the weather was foggy and/or rainy, it gave some kind of mysticism to the scenery. And all of this thanks to you. Really a great job this website. Plus the historical and cultural insights are very interesting.

    Happy travels,
    Amaury

    1. Tom says:
      January 2, 2017 at 12:00 PM

      Hi Amaury,

      Thanks. I’m very happy to hear that you liked the Ho Chi Minh Road so much. Shame about the weather, but I know what you mean about it making everything mystical 🙂

      Enjoy the rest of your trip,

      Tom

  49. Troy says:
    November 26, 2016 at 7:35 AM

    Hi Tom,

    Your website is awesome!
    My partner and I are planning a trip soon that I’ve mapped out myself referencing your maps and some others I’ve come across. As far as accommodation goes it’s pretty easy to find places online and most of the bigger cities seem loaded with hotels and guesthouses but I’m just wondering if there are many guesthouses or hotels in Kham Duc or close by as we’re planning to ride from Kon Tum to around there in a day and the only info I can find for places to stay are the two you’ve mentioned in Kham Duc.

    Thanks for all the hard work/riding!
    Troy

    1. Tom says:
      November 26, 2016 at 8:09 AM

      Hi Troy,

      Yes, there’s plenty of accommodation between Kon Tum and Kham Duc. There are hotels and guesthouses in Dak To, Ngoc Hoi and or Dak Glei, which is about half way between Kon Tum and Kham Duc (I mention the details in this section of my guide). In Kham Duc there are around half a dozen places to stay, including the ones I mention in my guide, so you shouldn’t have any problem finding a room, unless it’s a public holiday.

      Throughout this Ho Chi Minh Road guide, and all my Road Trip guides, I mention places to stay along the way, including contact details.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

  50. Matus says:
    October 21, 2016 at 8:21 PM

    Hi Tom,

    Great site, great inspiration and source of joy reading all these people’s experiences. And you clearly are a culprit there. Congratulations!
    I am doing your Beach Bum Route on bicycle between Nov 25 and Dec 18- well, that’s the plan.
    I wonder what’s your thought- would it be too cold for Sapa circuit; should we get back to Hanoi by train/bus or could we simply join HCM Road somewhere; is Duc Tuan still the only place to stay at Western HCM Road; are we set for wet central part of VTNM and just cheat by taking bikes on the bus, or we have to play it by ear on daily basis.
    Pls advice, tx,Matus

    1. Tom says:
      October 23, 2016 at 9:40 PM

      Hi Matus,

      It will probably by cold in Sapa at that time of year, so it just depends whether you don’t mind a bit of chill while riding your bike 🙂 Also, bear in mind that 3 weeks is not that long to ride the length of Vietnam by bicycle, so you might be pushed for time if you do Sapa as well.

      Going back to Hanoi by train would be fine. Or you could go back via Mai Chau and then join the Ho Chi Minh Road at Cam Thuy or Ngoc Lac instead.

      Yes, Duc Tuan is still the only place to stay on the Western Ho Chi Minh Road, read my full review of this place here.

      It probably will be wet in central Vietnam, but this is just the chance you take at that time of year. Yes, you can just play it by ear – if it’s raining all the time, just put your bicycle on a bus.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

  51. Rens says:
    September 24, 2016 at 8:23 AM

    Hey Tom,

    I just wanted to thank you. I did the south to north Vietnam trip on crappy yet incredible Honda Wins with three Dutch friends, and due to the discovery of your website in Hue, our trip has transformed from rememberable to unforgettable. The moment we left the highway and turned into the mainland (following your HCM-road directions) it has become an even more incredible experience. And for the icing on the cake, the ”extreme northern loupe” could possibly be the most beautiful place in the world. Thank you so much for your awesome website and your help.

    Greetings from Holland,
    Rens
    Pho Riders

    1. Tom says:
      September 24, 2016 at 12:17 PM

      Hi Rens,

      Thanks! It’s really great to hear that you had such a wonderful trip and that my website helped. I hope you’ll always remember your road trip in Vietnam.

      Tom

  52. Rachelle says:
    August 18, 2016 at 7:08 AM

    Hey Tom!

    I am a female traveling alone by motorbike on the way to Hanoi and am looking to follow your guide up the rest of the way. Would you say that I would be safe in these rural areas by myself? I would ideally like to meet people to ride with but haven’t found anyone heading my direction yet. Thoughts on female solo travel this route?

    Thanks!

    Rachelle

    1. Tom says:
      August 18, 2016 at 7:29 AM

      Hi Rachelle,

      Yes, I would say it’s safe for a solo female traveller riding on this route. Vietnam is still a very safe country in which to travel. But, of course, things do happen. Take all the normal precautions you would when travelling anywhere else in the world and I’m sure you’ll be fine.

      If you want to find other people who might be riding that stretch of road, try posting on the Vietnam Back-Roads Facebook page.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

      1. Rachelle says:
        August 20, 2016 at 10:32 AM

        I was wondering if there was a group on facebook! Thank you so much Tom!

    2. Fabian says:
      August 20, 2016 at 9:56 AM

      Hey Rachelle,

      I’m riding this route aswell. I’m starting tomorrow on the 21st of August. If you don’t want to ride on your own feel free to join me for a part of the route until you feel comfortable.
      If you need my mail ask Tom he already has it.

      Fabian

      1. Rachelle says:
        August 20, 2016 at 10:33 AM

        I emailed you Fabian thanks!

        1. Tom says:
          August 20, 2016 at 11:12 AM

          Great 🙂

  53. Richard says:
    July 25, 2016 at 3:17 PM

    Hi Tom,

    I’m planning on doing this trip in early November this year. I was thinking about what kind of motorbike to buy.
    Probably an automatic one. I have a manual motorbike so shifting is not an issue….but why would I bother? Is the Honda Nuovo a good choice? How much did it break down and what is the oil change interval?

    Thank you for this amazing post. I found it by accident a few days after I decided to take the journey on 🙂

    1. Tom says:
      July 26, 2016 at 1:22 AM

      Hi Richard,

      Yes, an automatic like the Yamaha Nouvo or a semi-automatic like the Honda Wave is all you need. They are both reliable, easily repaired, easy to ride etc. Personally, I use a Yamaha Nouvo, which I love, but many ‘bikey’ people disagree. Check out Tigit Motorbikes for buying your bike and they also have good information on their website about which bike to choose (there’s a link to Tigit Motorbikes in the sidebar of this page and above this comment section).

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

  54. Sinead says:
    July 19, 2016 at 4:11 AM

    This website has been so useful when planning my trip from HCM to Hanoi.

    I’m now in Phong Nha after an epic ride from Khe Sahn which was a highlight of the trip. Long Son was a great little stop off and if I head back there I think I will definitely spend the night so I have more time to relax, swim and enjoy the beautiful countryside.

    There is now a petrol station being built which was about half finished which is good to know for the future.

    I now need to head to Hanoi and was looking at going via Ninh Binh. I’m looking at going to Pho Chau and then Dan Luc. As my friend is arriving in the next few days I was thinking about skipping Ninh Binh for now and going straight up the HCM from Dan Luc to Hanoi. Do you know if this would be a good option. I’m basically looking to get to Hanoi, avoiding any horrible highways and traffic. Any recommendations would be great !

    Thanks, Sinead

    1. Tom says:
      July 21, 2016 at 3:31 AM

      Hi Sinead,

      Thanks for the useful update about the gas station under construction in Long Son – that’s great news!

      Yes, taking the Ho Chi Minh Road from Pho Chau all the way up to Hoa Lac and then turning east on the Thang Long Highway into Hanoi is the best way to approach the capital without encountering too much traffic (as described in Section 8 of this guide). However, the last 1.5 hours is always a little bit busy and polluted – that’s just the way it is.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

  55. Chris says:
    July 11, 2016 at 12:42 PM

    There is a good hotel in Yen Cat named Dai Lam Hotel. It is just as you’re passing out of Yen Cat on your way north. To get in Yen Cat you exit off HCMH onto a parallel road that then comes back onto the highway. Where it reconnects is where the hotel is located. It also has a gas station in front of it. The cost is 250000. They were grilling duck a couple doors down and that was actually a good dinner.

    1. Chris says:
      July 11, 2016 at 12:44 PM

      I saw three other hotels in town but they were all inferior to this one.

      1. Tom says:
        July 11, 2016 at 12:46 PM

        Thanks Chris,

        Yes, there are a few hotels in Yen Cat. I also like the one on next to the gas station on the edge of town that you mention.

        Tom

  56. Chris says:
    July 11, 2016 at 9:56 AM

    Just a heads up:

    The hotel five minutes north of pho chau has two tiers and actually two separate buildings. The bigger hotel with the pool is 500000 for room with pool use and breakfast.

    To get the 250000 price you stay in the smaller hotel next door. You do not get breakfast nor pool use. Actually I think the price is 200000 for a single bed (250000 for two beds) but she could not get the door open…

    At the reception I had to ask for the 250000 price, referring to your notes. It was not listed there.

    1. Tom says:
      July 11, 2016 at 10:22 AM

      Thanks, Chris.

      That’s a really helpful update for me and I’m sure any other readers who are following this guide on the Ho Chi Minh Road.

      Thanks again,

      Tom

  57. Peter Link says:
    July 6, 2016 at 12:35 PM

    Thanks for this very comprehensive tour information, it was very helpfull to plan my next cycling trip. The pictures are great too, nice job.

    1. Tom says:
      July 6, 2016 at 5:05 PM

      Thanks, Peter. Glad you enjoyed it.

      Tom

  58. Andy says:
    June 18, 2016 at 2:13 AM

    Hey!

    Thank you for all the information you provide.

    Honestly I’m a little bit concerned about the overnight thing.
    Do you find possibilities for sleeping quite often on the Ho chi Minh road?

    I tried to figure it out on the Internet but that didn’t work that good :/

    Cheers, Andy

    1. Tom says:
      June 19, 2016 at 6:12 AM

      Hi Andy,

      Which particular part of this trip are you concerned about overnight stops? In the above guide I’ve included the names, prices, contact numbers and mapped accommodation on the entire Ho Chi Minh Road. Unless you are travelling during a national holiday you don’t need to book rooms in advance: just turn up on the day and get a room.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

  59. Damian Modernell says:
    June 12, 2016 at 1:49 AM

    This guide was so helpfull, i just got to hanoi from saigon, 21 days and did almost everuthing on this guide, such a great trip. Only diference is i jumped off the ho chi minh road in kham duc towards hoi an and did the hai van pass. Now trying to seell my honda
    Anyway just wanted to thank you for this post
    cheers

    1. Tom says:
      June 12, 2016 at 6:18 AM

      Hi Damian,

      Thanks, it’s great to hear that you enjoyed the ride and that my guide was useful to you. Good luck selling your bike!

      Tom

  60. Daniel says:
    May 30, 2016 at 3:06 PM

    Tom,

    Great guide, but I was wondering how dangerous this trip would be for someone that hasn’t driven a bike before. I’ve heard some horror stories about people getting run off roads by trucks etc. Could I get your opinion on this?

    Thanks, Daniel

    1. Tom says:
      May 31, 2016 at 12:45 AM

      Hi Daniel,

      You should always be very careful when riding a motorbike on Vietnam’s roads. In the context of the whole country, the Ho Chi Minh Road is relatively safe, because traffic is much lighter than on other major roads in Vietnam. Road conditions are good for most of the journey, but some sections are extremely mountainous and occasional stretches have trucks on them.

      Ultimately, you’ll have to decide for yourself if you feel comfortable enough on a motorbike to ride this route. The more time you have the better, as this means you will not be rushing.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

  61. Toshy says:
    May 25, 2016 at 8:54 AM

    Tom,

    Thanks for the great guide! We just wrapped up a tremendous trip. We used your guide most every day from Ho Chi Minh to Hanoi, now we just have to sell it! If anyone’s interested in a reliable bike, we rode a Honda Win which gave us very little trouble.

    Thanks again for the help!!

    Toshy

    1. Tom says:
      May 25, 2016 at 11:06 AM

      Hi Toshy,

      Great to hear you had such a good trip. You might have more success finding a buyer for your bike at some of the more popular hostels in Hanoi or try posting it on the Hanoi Expats Facebook page.

      Good luck,

      Tom

  62. Reed Bernstein says:
    May 11, 2016 at 9:03 PM

    I love this guide and I’m going to start the Ho Chi Minh road on June 15 with Yamaha from Tigit. This is a minor suggestion, a quibble at best, but I decided to go from North to South and to do a reverse route would be easier on the brain. Again just a minor suggestion and I’ll make do with how your excellent guide is set up.

    Thanks for all your hard work.

    Reed

    1. Tom says:
      May 12, 2016 at 1:20 AM

      Hi Reed,

      Good to hear you’ll be riding the Ho Chi Minh Road.

      As this is a very long guide (10,000 words) it would take way too much time to write another version going from north to south. As it is, you shouldn’t have too much difficulty in following this guide in reverse.

      I hope you enjoy the ride,

      Tom

  63. Tommy says:
    May 5, 2016 at 4:49 AM

    Hi Tom,

    Thanks for all of this valuable information. I’ve read through your camping articles (Dalat and Ocean Road) and your comments on this article. I’m taking my eno hammock and I’m wondering if there are many places to camp in a hammock along this section of the road. I saw your response to one message about being hidden while being careful for unexploded mines. How would you recommend picking a spot to set up a hammock? I plan on staying in Khe Sanh, Nha Phuong (here, I’ll probably stay at Easy Tiger or one of the other hostels) and Pho Chau. Also, on a related note, is there opportunity for hammock camping in Ha Giang?

    1. Tom says:
      May 5, 2016 at 5:19 AM

      Hi Tommy,

      Firstly, I’m just in the process of fully updating and expanding this guide to the Ho Chi Minh Road right now. It should be finished in a couple of days, so look out for that or subscribe to my posts here if you’d like to get an email notification when it’s published.

      There are plenty of opportunities to hammock camp on the Western Ho Chi Minh Road – the same rules still apply as the how to choose your spot. Trees near rivers are always nice places to be and there are lots of spots like that on this section of road. Also, as mentioned in the comments and as will be included in my updated guide, there is now a hotel halfway between Khe Sanh and Phong Nha, in a little village called Long Son.

      Yes, in Ha Giang too you’ll find spots to put up your hammock. You’ll kind of get a feel for places after a few days on the road, if you know what I mean.

      I hope this helps and that you get the chance to sleep out a lot.

      Tom

  64. Liviu Chis says:
    March 30, 2016 at 1:20 PM

    Tom, I just did a trip to Phong Nha and this blog helped so much! The map you put together was on point. I thought that I should make my own but then I realized that you had covered everything and I would have very little to add. Thanks for making this a smooth trip man!

    1. Tom says:
      March 30, 2016 at 1:48 PM

      Hi Liviu,

      Great to hear you enjoyed Phong Nha and the ride there. I hope the rest of your travels in Vietnam are just as enjoyable.

      Tom

  65. Julia says:
    March 28, 2016 at 4:16 AM

    I’m back with a road update on the HMC Road, beginning at Phong Nha and heading South.

    The first 100 km from Phong Nha to Long Son (where the hotel is that got recommended in the comments), the road was beautiful but there is a bit of construction going on at the moment. There’s lots of gravel in the corners and the occasional stone pile which you have to avoid. The road itself is still in top shape and is entirely rideable, but the constructions slowed us down a bit. This should be kept in mind if anyone wants to ride the entire 240 km in one day.

    The rest was in pristine shape and we had an amazing time! Unfortunately, the weather wasn’t playing along, so we got wet a few times. Now we are relaxing in Kon Tum for a bit before we’re heading to the coast.

    1. Tom says:
      March 28, 2016 at 2:16 PM

      Hi Julia,

      Thanks for the update. Sounds like a good ride, despite the weather!

      If you’re taking Road QL24 from Kon Tum down to the coast near Quang Ngai bear in mind that a few readers have mentioned some construction on this route recently. No one has reported that it’s not passable, just expect some roadworks.

      Safe trip,

      Tom

  66. Julia Bencker says:
    March 20, 2016 at 11:19 AM

    Hello Tom,

    Checking in from Hue this time after successfully surviving the Northeast Loop 🙂 Still a big fan of your work!

    This time, I have a question: We want to drive to Vinh Moc from Hue and visit the tunnel systems. From there, I now pieced together a route taking us inland over QL15 East. Here, we meet QL15 west on a crossroads and continue south to Khe Sanh.

    It’s a 176km section, which seems to be doable. Or are we missing some vital information, like a horribly bad road, constructions or other obstacles?

    Here’s a link, in case anyone else is interested: https://goo.gl/maps/xfTdNW7GzZt

    We don’t want to miss out on your favourite stretch of the HCMR, but the question is: Is this part also worth it? Would you suggest a better route? Should we go further North and join the section there to see the highlights?

    If you have some input for us, we’d be very grateful!

    All the best,
    Julia

    1. Tom says:
      March 20, 2016 at 11:43 AM

      Hi Julia,

      Firstly, from Hue to Vinh Moc Tunnels you can take small, scenic back-roads along the coast all the way. Zoom in close to the relevant section of this map to see the route.

      Secondly, the route you have from Vinh Moc Tunnels to the Western Ho Chi Minh Road and Khe Sanh is good – there are some potholes on the road linking QL15 (the Eastern Ho Chi Minh Road) and the Western Ho Chi Minh Road but nothing serious – at least last time I rode it. So that route is fine.

      However, the section of the Western Ho Chi Minh Road from Xuan Son (Phong Nha) to the intersection where you plan on joining the road is one of the most scenic rides in Vietnam. So, if you have the time and energy, then yes it is worth taking the Eastern Ho Chi Minh Road north (QL15) all the way to Xuan Son and then joining the Western Ho Chi Minh Road from there. (QL15 is a relatively easy and flat ride so it’s not such a big deal to ride it).

      I hope this helps you to make your decision.

      Tom

    2. Tom says:
      March 20, 2016 at 11:55 AM

      Wait! Sorry, I misread your map. There have been reports of heavy construction on one or both of the roads connecting the Eastern and Western Ho Chi Minh Roads at that intersection. So I think it’s probably best to avoid that and continue on the Eastern Ho Chi Minh Road all the way to Xuan Son then join the Western Ho Chi Minh Road south to Khe Sanh. You’ll have to add a couple of days to your itinerary but you will see fantastic landscape and you will have the peace of mind that you won’t be travelling those roads under heavy construction.

      Whichever route you choose, please let me know how it goes.

      Thanks,

      Tom

      1. Julia says:
        March 20, 2016 at 12:14 PM

        Hi Tom,

        That’s what I was fearing, thanks. I read the comment of the user and was hoping she’s referring to some point further south…

        Your remark on the Eastern QL15 is encouraging. We don’t want to ride two massive mountain sections in two days but if you say that the Eastern route is flat, it helps calculating the effort.

        I’m really keen on doing this section, but what could we leave out in the South for it? If you had to name the first low- to midrange beach spot that comes to your mind where there’s some waves to play with – which is it?

        Also, can we buy you a beer somewhere for all your help?

        Julia

        1. Tom says:
          March 20, 2016 at 1:36 PM

          You can leave out the Ho Chi Minh Road from Kon Tum south. And you could leave out the coast from Hoi An south to Quy Nhon. Also there’s no real need to go to Dalat considering all the amazing highland scenery you will have already seen in north and central Vietnam. The best coastal roads are from Nha Trang all the way south to Saigon – all on excellent (mostly) new roads with great ocean views and plenty of accommodation in all price categories (only a total of 50km on Highway 1) – see this map. Waves are difficult to predict. Mui Ne almost always has them from 12noon onwards. Long Beach, just south of Nha Trang is famous for some of the best surf in Vietnam. Cam Ranh Bay is superb coastal scenery but no surf. To be honest my Camping Guide to the Ocean Road is a great way to experience the southern coast – I’ve just done it again with with close friends from the UK last week and it was fabulous.

          Keep in touch – I don’t really know where I’ll be from week to week 🙂

          Tom

          1. Julia says:
            March 20, 2016 at 3:34 PM

            You are incredible. Thank you so much! We are doing the section, it’s decided. And in Nha Trang we’re going to look for some camping gear. 🙂

            Thanks again!

  67. Josh says:
    March 19, 2016 at 9:37 AM

    Hi Tom,

    We are in Hoi An going to Da Nang after. Would you recommend taking the Hai Van pass to Hue then over to HCM road or straight to HCMR from Da Nang and head north from there.

    Thanks,

    Josh

    1. Tom says:
      March 19, 2016 at 4:05 PM

      Hi Josh,

      Good question. Personally I prefer going straight for the HCM Road from Hoi An. But both routes are good. It really depends on whether you feel like some ocean scenery or some mountains and jungle. If you choose the Hai Van Pass then make sure you take the coast road after the pass to Hue which I’ve outlined here.

      I hope you enjoy whichever of the routes you choose.

      Tom

  68. Nasci says:
    March 14, 2016 at 6:57 AM

    Great site Tom. I’m using it a lot for a Saigon-Hue trip I am contemplating in June.
    I’m wondering how many days one would need for following QL1 out of Saigon, turning inland south of Quang Nga onto QL24 ito catch the HCM Road at Kon Tum, taking that to QL 49 into Hue? It’s about 1400km, so I’m figuring 7-9 days with some leisurely stops.

    If anyone has ridden this route, any advice would be appreciated.
    If there’s a more scenic/adventurous route using QL 1 and the HCM Rd, would love to hear about it.

    And is the fastest way back from Hue on a train? Unsre if I will load bike on train or try to organise a drop-off in Hue, if that is even possible.

    Thanks in advance.

    1. Tom says:
      March 15, 2016 at 12:53 AM

      Hi Nasci,

      Definitely don’t take Highway 1 all the way from Saigon to Quang Ngai – there’s a much better route along the coast. Followg the route map from Saigon to Nha Tran in this guide.

      Then from Nha Trang to Quang Ngai you will have to go on Highway 1 for certain sections, but there are still good, smaller, coast roads – for example, from Dai Lanh Beach to Vung Ro Bay and then to Quy Nhon, and also from Quy Nhon north to Tam Quan. To follow this route zoom in on the relevant sections of this route map – it can be a bit difficult to follow, but it is worth it.

      Both QL24 and QL49 are scenic roads but there are reports of some road works on them, so be prepared for a slower ride time.

      Yes, 7-10 days is a decent amount of time to have for this road tip – although, as always, the more time you have the better.

      Yes, you can put your bike on the train from Hue back to Saigon. Or maybe Tigit Motorbikes or Flamingo Travel can arrange a drop-off.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

      1. Nasci says:
        March 15, 2016 at 4:00 AM

        It certainly does help, Tom. Thx once again.
        Last question..er, for now…any contacts in Da Nang for renting reliable touring or dirt bikes?

        1. Tom says:
          March 15, 2016 at 1:12 PM

          Hi Nasci,

          Yes, sure – try Rent a Bike Vietnam, they have an office in Danang: you can find a link to them in the right sidebar and bottom of this page.

          Tom

  69. Don says:
    March 5, 2016 at 2:58 AM

    Good day Tom ,
    Have a little unusual question this morning. I am headed south from Pleiku returning to Saigon as I have to return to the US do to my mother falling extremely ill. I will make Boun Ma Thout this evening and wondered if you know what my fastest route south from there?
    Some friends last week told me ql27 headed south toward Da Lat was nice but very slow and south of there I have no idea on any of the roads.

    Thank you very much Don

    1. Tom says:
      March 5, 2016 at 7:42 AM

      Hi Don,

      Very sorry to hear about your mother. For the fastest way back to Saigon from Buon Ma Thuot take the Ho Chi Minh Road (Highway 14) all the way south to Thu Dau Mot (just outside of Saigon). The journey is about 400km and can be ridden in one day if you start early in the morning.

      An alternative is to take Highway 26 from Buon Ma Thuot to Ninh Hoa and then take a train from Nha Trang back to Saigon.

      I hope this helps you get back to your mother as fast as possible,

      Tom

      1. Don says:
        March 6, 2016 at 1:18 AM

        Thank you Tom.

        I thought 14 looked like the most direct route but sometimes these roads can fool you in the time department.

        We all get old and there is not much we can do about it. This is the first time in 33 years of travel she has ever requested me. So you do what you need to do.

        Thank you once again for all your useful information and until next time,

        Cheers
        Don

  70. Noemi says:
    February 25, 2016 at 12:31 AM

    Ps: we had driven past the mountain pass that is north of Khe Sanh, and made that right turn about 10km after exiting the pass, if helps locate our turn, and road construction location.

  71. Noemi says:
    February 25, 2016 at 12:28 AM

    I just drove from Khe Sanh to Phong Nha but due to steady rain we turned right at a fork on a “shortcut” about 70-80km after Khe Sanh, on a road that was getting us to Ho Chi Minh road east. It turns out this is a major construction sites over 10km long, with bridges being built, and we had to ride through rivers and very slippery mud, taking us 3hrs to get to the Eastern portion of the HCM road. Don’t make the same mistake, don’t take that right turn!! And if anyone knows which road I ended up being on that has this massive construction linking the east and west Ho Chi Minh road above Khe Sanh, please let me know.

    1. Tom says:
      February 25, 2016 at 12:38 AM

      Hi Noemi,

      I think you must have taken the road from Tang Ky. Someone has commented before that this road is undergoing repairs.

      I hope the weather improves soon and that you get to enjoy some good roads in better conditions.

      Tom

  72. Vy Nguyen says:
    February 20, 2016 at 9:17 AM

    Hello,
    I love your blog. It not only gives travellers useful tips but also shows how beautiful Vietnam is. As a Vietnamese, I would like to thank you so much for that. I would like to ask you along HCM road (from Kon Tum to Phố Châu) which section (which day) is the most beautiful in your opinion. Because I dont have much time to go all the route you did, I want to choose the best section to conquer. I have 2-3 days only. How about West HCM road from khe sanh to Phong nha? Is it the best?
    Thanks.

    1. Tom says:
      February 20, 2016 at 10:49 AM

      Hi Vy,

      Thanks, it’s great to hear you like my blog.

      Yes, you’re absolutely right: if you only do one section of the Ho Chi Minh Road then it should definitely be the western branch from Khe Sanh to Phong Nha.

      I hope you enjoy the trip – I’m certain you will 🙂

      Tom

  73. Slawek says:
    February 4, 2016 at 5:48 AM

    Hi Tom,

    First of all I wanted to thank you again for superb guides that helped me plan my trip. So far it was awesome! I did the costal road and camped in several places and now I’m doing HCM road and Golden Loop.

    I was wondering if you know how is it when it comes to nha nghis during the Tet? It seams that I’ll be on the HCM road again at that time. I know people go to their homes to celebrate it with their familis but I’m not sure if I’ll be able to find any accomodation during that time. I still have my tent but the weather here is slightly different from what I experienced at the south ;P

    Thanks in advance!
    Slawek

    1. Tom says:
      February 4, 2016 at 11:40 PM

      Hi Slawek,

      Great to hear you’re enjoying your Vietnam road trip.

      Yes, you’re right about Tet. The Ho Chi Minh Road has relatively few nhà nghỉ anyway so you might find that some of them (in the more remote areas) are closed for a few days over the Lunar New Year. But certainly not all of them, because lots of Vietnamese travel at this time of year (making long journeys) so many guesthouses stay open to cater to them.

      I would take it as it comes and if you really can’t find a place to stay then you always have your tent – even if it is going to be a cold night! 🙂

      I hope you continue to enjoy your trip,

      Tom

  74. Galpie Wieland says:
    February 3, 2016 at 2:07 PM

    Hi,
    Awesome trip, I’m defintly thinking of doing the same trip as you made. I actually have around 18/19 days. Im with a friend were quite young and don’t mind driving like 250 km a day. would it be possible for us to that between the time we have? The setting of our vacation will be a roadtrip/party/holiday chilling isn’t that important for us! i would really appreciate your tips and comment!
    Thanks in advance!

    Kind regards
    Galpie Wieland
    Netherlands

    1. Tom says:
      February 3, 2016 at 11:40 PM

      Hi Galpie,

      Yes, sure 18/19 days is enough time to ride this route. In general, it’s a good idea to start out early in the day (just after breakfast) so that you have enough time to enjoy the ride and stop on the way. Some long days of driving (200-300km) are fine too, especially on the Ho Chi Minh Road because traffic is light and the road condition is good.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

      1. Galpie Wieland says:
        February 4, 2016 at 11:48 AM

        Dear Tom,

        First of all I want to thank you for your reply.
        So the amount of days I have should be enough, are there also some places with tourists so that we can have a little party and mingle with the other backpackers? And were thinking of renting a bike.. is it also possible to rent it in Hanoi and dropping it off in Ho Chi Minh ( or the other way around). And where do you think that we should start our trip Hanoi or Ho Chi Minh. If we drive 200/300 km’s a day how many actual driving days would that be? And is it true that we can only rent 50cc bikes due the regulations? because is went to the site that is shown on this page and that company starts with 110 cc bikes. Im sorry for al my questions.. I know that it seems that i didnt do much of searching and looking up stuff, but in the contrary.. the issue is i attach more value to experiences of other people than i do to websites.

        Thank you in advance again!

        Galpie

        1. Tom says:
          February 4, 2016 at 11:55 PM

          Hi Galpie,

          You can meet and drink and party with other backpackers in plenty of places along the way: Son Trach (also known as Xuan Son and Phong Nha) is a small place but the growing backpacker vibe in some of the hostels means you can have a fun night drinking and chatting there. You can drop down off the Ho Chi Minh Road to Hue or Hoi An easily for a night out too. Then Nha Trang is probably the best place for nightlife in Vietnam (after Saigon, of course).

          Yes, renting in Hanoi and dropping the bike back in Saigon (or the other way around) is possible. Try Rent a Bike Vietnam (the one shown on this page) or Flamingo Travel.

          With long days on the road of between 200-300km per day you’re looking at around 10-14 days of driving – that is assuming you ride something similar to the Scenic Route, which is between 2,500-3,000km in total.

          Officially you can only ride a 50cc bike if you do not have a local drivers’ license, but in reality hardly anyone does. Standard bikes are 110-125cc and that is what the vast majority of riders use. If you get stopped by the police you may have to pay a standard $10 fine. But your rental company will give you more information about this, including a number to call while you’re on the road for assistance if you get stopped.

          I hope this helps,

          Tom

  75. Sundari says:
    January 27, 2016 at 1:17 PM

    I can not even express my gratitude in finding you. Your amazing adventure has completely changed my plans around. I have been doing research for weeks and I was starting to get a little sad about my trip. Everything seemed based around guided tours and that’s just not my thing. Also the throngs of pictures with tourest everwhere also isnt my thing (even though I am one) so finally I find your site and my spirits are renewed. I am beyond excited for the ride ahead. Not sure though if I can make it. I have exactly 23 days in Vietnam from April 22 to May 16th starting in Saigon. I want to make it over to Ankor wat for sure. I will probably do this first. 1st question have you taken this trip on bike? Is it okay to cross border on rented scooter or should I just take the bus? I also want to travel up north to Hanoi. I would like to follow your route all the way. I would though like to just fly back to Saigon so I have a little time to chill and not feel rushed. Is this possible? Just renting a bike from Saigon and leaving it in Hanoi. I am.going to check that link to see if they would deliver it that far. I am an experienced rider and not afraid to travel alone Vietnam so no worries there. Vietnam seems safer then India and I did that by myself. I would have to do that whole trek in under 2 weeks. Is that even possible? Wish I saw you before I bought my ticket I would stay longer. Thank you so much for the insperation, the writing, the vidoes. I cant wait to read all your other articles.

    1. Tom says:
      January 29, 2016 at 4:31 AM

      Hi Sundari,

      Yes, it’s definitely possible to ride from Saigon to Hanoi in the time you have, and it is also possible to rent a bike from Saigon and drop it off in Hanoi.

      However, I suggest either taking the bus or flying (at least one way) between Saigon and Angkor. This way you will have more time to do the ride. Two weeks is OK, but between 2 and 3 weeks is much, much better. It will give you the time to really enjoy the riding, the scenery, the people, the food etc. Two weeks – especially if you’re travelling the Scenic Route (which is much better than taking Highway 1) – is just a little bit too rushed, and it will not leave you much time to ‘chill’ at all.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

  76. Cynthia Sneath says:
    January 16, 2016 at 11:57 AM

    Driving the Ho Chi Minh Highway. So many of us Ho Chi Miners use your site as a bible for the ride.

    I was hoping you could add the following info about the route between Khe Sanh to Phong Nha.

    There is a village a bit north of Tan Ky close to the valley of rice fields where there is petrol and a hotel called Duc Tuan Hotel – 0949 522 331.

    Thank you for your wonderful site!!!

    1. Tom says:
      January 16, 2016 at 3:42 PM

      Hi Cynthia,

      Thanks for the valuable update – I’m sure other ‘Ho Chi Miners’ will benefit for this information.

      Enjoy the rest of your ride!

      Tom

  77. Don Evans says:
    January 4, 2016 at 3:07 AM

    Tom,
    Been following your web site for awhile and must say it is of great value and thank you for your work.

    I am flying into Ho Chi Minh on the 30 th of Jan for 10 weeks. Plan on buying a bike in the south and slowly working north trying to catch the last couple weeks of March in the far north depending on weather..

    Your route will be invaluable not to mention the rest of your site. I spent a month in Vietnam in 2014 and just loved it and have been riding for 40 plus years though I have never ridden anywhere else in the world like Vietnam..lol

    Cheers
    Don

    1. Tom says:
      January 4, 2016 at 6:25 AM

      Hi Don,

      Thanks! With 10 weeks you should have a great time! Yes, it’s best to leave the north to last at that time of year – even central areas, like Hue, might be pretty bleak during those months.

      I hope you have a fantastic road trip,

      Tom

  78. Slawek says:
    December 31, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    Tom,

    Thanks again. I’ve read the posts you mention before. Maybe I’ll try camping around Dalat too, being woken up by buffalo might be shocking experience though 😉 When I was asking about safety, leaving tent and chances of charge electronics I had these designated camping areas from your guide in mind – sorry for not being specific. But from you say it should be OK there.

    Thanks a lot and Happy New Year!
    Slawek

    1. Tom says:
      December 31, 2015 at 6:56 PM

      Happy New Year to you too!

      Regards charging electronic stuff – you’re never too far from a local cafe where you can plug your equipment in for an hour while you drink your coffee. Remember to bring a multiple adapter so that you can charge all your stuff at the same time!

      Tom

  79. Slawek says:
    December 28, 2015 at 7:29 AM

    Hey Tom,

    Thanks for super useful and inspiring guide! I’m heading to Vietnam in the beginning of January planning to ride from HCMC to Hanoi and can’t imagine deciding to do that without your guide.
    My plan is to buy a bike & tent and take Coastal Road up to Quy Nhon and than Ho Chi Minh Road. I’m traveling solo and have more than five week’s time on my hands for this trip.

    I have some questions and will appreciate your (or other riders’) reply.

    1. I definitely can’t say I’m experienced driver. I’ve only ridden through some parts of the Ma Hong Son Loop in northern Thailand and in Chiang Mai. Is it gonna be very hard to get out of Saigon and get to the coast?

    2. I’ll be doing my trip in January/February and I’m not sure about the weather. From what I know this part of year is okay when it comes to the south. Is it also true that central highlands and north will be dry but chilly? Will it be super cold in the night if I’ll be forced to camp somewhere there being unable to find a guesthouse in the evening or simply deciding that I want to spend the night in the tent?

    3. I don’t want to miss any part of HCM Road but still want to see some places on the coast, Hoi An and Hue to name a few. Does it make sense to ride there back and forth?

    Thanks in advance,

    Slawek

    1. Tom says:
      December 29, 2015 at 2:04 AM

      Hi Slawek,

      5 weeks is a good chunk of time to have to do a south to north motorbike trip. Because you have so much time I don’t think you’re relative lack of riding experience should be a problem. Yes, getting out of Saigon is not that fun. But if you take the ‘back way’ out of the city (using the Cat Lai ferry and cutting through Nhon Trach industrial estate before joining highway 51 to Ba Ria) you should fine. You can read more about the ‘back way’ here.

      Yes, that’s pretty much accurate about the weather. In January/February it will be perfect weather anywhere south of Nha Trang and it should also be OK in the Central Highlands too. But as you move further north the temperatures will get a lot cooler. Personally, I’d take my time in the south 🙂 However, quite a few readers have written to me saying they’ve had good (if cold) weather way up in the north of that time of year. Take a look at my guide to Weather in Vietnam.

      Yes, the central area around Hoi An and Hue is great, but so is the Ho Chi Minh Road is that area. However, because you have the time, you can easily do a loop in the centre that would take in the Ho Chi Minh Road and the Hai Van Pass which connects Hoi An/Danang and Hue. Read my guide the Hai Van Pass here and I will also be publishing a guide to this loop in the next couple of weeks, so stay tuned.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

      1. Slawek says:
        December 30, 2015 at 5:34 AM

        Tom,

        Thanks a lot! I think I’ll try to spend most of my time in the south and central part and then do the north as fast as possible.

        There’s also one thing about camping that I’m concerned about. How is it when it comes to safety? Of course I know I have to keep an eye on my valuables all the time but what’s your general feeling? Can I leave my tent and go for the ride to the village? Is it and the rest of my regular things gonna be where I left it? 😉

        Oh, and is there a way to charge your electronic devices on the camping?

        Thanks!

        Slawek

        1. Tom says:
          December 31, 2015 at 1:20 AM

          Hi Slawek,

          In general, you should try to be as discreet as possible when you are camping in the wild. Try not to be visible from any roads, and don’t be too conspicuous when you are setting up camp. This is not so much to do with safety, but more to do with not drawing attention to yourself.

          It’s best not to leave your tent for any significant period of time – it’s just not worth taking the risk. Of course, all of this doesn’t apply when you are camping at a designated area, such as the camp grounds on the Ocean Road.

          Also, remember that UXO (unexploded ordnance) is still an issue when camping off the beaten track: don’t just wander off into the jungle and don’t go digging any holes in the ground. I’ve written a bit more about camping in this post.

          I hope this helps,

          Tom

  80. Clifford Wadge says:
    December 23, 2015 at 1:17 PM

    Hi Tom

    The last two days from Kon Tum to Aluoi have been great days with heavy white clouds in the mountains between the two tunnels.

    Do you know of the exact location of the accommodation mentioned in the above posts at Thuong Son ( Long Son). The 250km is a little to long for my wife in one day. Therefore i need an alternative or I my have to skip this section.

    1. Tom says:
      December 23, 2015 at 3:11 PM

      Hi Clifford,

      No, I’m afraid I don’t know the exact location – a reader posted it in the comments section a few months ago. I think they may have sent me an email with further details, but I can’t find it now.

      But don’t miss this section of road – it’s marvellous! Start very early in the morning, and remember that, even if you get stuck at night, you will find some one to put you up for a night: quite a few people have written to me having received similar hospitality on this section on road.

      I hope you decide to do it,

      Tom

  81. Clifford Wadge says:
    December 22, 2015 at 2:33 PM

    Hi Tom

    I am currently doing a south to north trip. I started in HCMC and took the train to Mui ne. The coastal road along the Mui Dinh Promontory is under construction again the new road that they have built is covered with landslides they are blasting all the hanging rocks off the hill side now. The road at the time we went through last week was open but only to motorbike and bicycle as there was only small path opened by the locals. It looks as if they will be working on this road for a while still. But a beautiful section of road.

    Other than that all other ocean roads are all ok up to Nha trang.

    From Phan rang we drove up to Nha trang to Buon ho.

    In Buon Ho we found a new Nha Nghi called Thuy Tien just before the town. Very clean, very helpful staff and beds very hard($9).I have uploaded it to google.

    Last night we stayed in Kon Tum at a small place just off the river called Khách sạn Kon Tum. Very clean and helpful staff. ($12)

    We have just completed day one of your ho chi minh road guide.

    If today is only the start I am so excited to see the rest.

    I will give further updates.

    Thank you all the effort you have put into these pages it has really helped.

    If there is anyone currently on this trip please let me know.

    1. Tom says:
      December 23, 2015 at 1:27 AM

      Hi Clifford,

      Thanks for your update on roads and guest houses. It’s a pity about the Mui Dinh Road as that has only recently been opened!

      You have a great ride ahead of you on the Ho Chi Minh Road, however I’ll be interested to hear how the weather is! I hope you have a few days of sunshine and warmth.

      Enjoy the ride,

      Tom

  82. Mark says:
    December 18, 2015 at 6:33 AM

    Hi Tom,

    Your guide was one of the main source of inspiration as I did my loop from Hoi An to Khe Sanh, Hue, Da Nang and finally back. I’ve made a video for this trip: http://youtu.be/5Tcsj_eMndk
    Once again, thanks!

    1. Tom says:
      December 18, 2015 at 10:01 AM

      Thanks, Mark.

      Glad you enjoyed your road trip. That’s a great loop. Nice video!

      Tom

  83. Travel to Indochina says:
    November 23, 2015 at 4:37 AM

    Look great itinerary.

    1. Tom says:
      November 23, 2015 at 10:05 AM

      Thanks

  84. Max says:
    November 20, 2015 at 6:10 PM

    I would be SO depressed if I ever saw dog being served anywhere. I’d love to go to Vietnam and take a trek like this, but the dog thing…I would be so disturbed.

    1. Tom says:
      November 22, 2015 at 7:28 AM

      Hi Max,

      If you feel that way then it’s probably best not to go too far off the beaten track in Vietnam, especially in the north where dog meat is more popular. Stick to touristy areas because the government knows that many foreigners are sensitive about seeing dog meat for sale so it’s not so conspicuous in popular tourist spots.

      Tom

  85. Fabian says:
    November 20, 2015 at 5:27 PM

    Hi Tom

    What an awesome article thank you so much! Me and my friend just bought some bikes yesterday and made our way up to cat ba. What an awfull road haha! Roadconstruction and tons of crazy trucks. Was a nice adventure anyway. As we’re just have a bit more than 3 weeks we propably will not make our way up to Muong Lay and Lai Chau 🙁 I would like to ask you if you have any recomendations from the way from Cat Ba (Halong) down to Phố Châu?

    As i’d love to do the hai van pass as well as the pass you described (wich seems INCREDIBLE) and hai on (for the tailors!) aswell as hue do you think thats possible? How long would id take you to do both? Any suggestions how we could do that?

    Do you have any expirience with selling bikes in cambodia? we were thinking taking them over there as we have some more time there and sell them in phon phen.

    Thank you so much for your help already

    Just the best for you

    Fabian

    1. Tom says:
      November 22, 2015 at 7:25 AM

      Hi Fabian,

      From Cat Ba to Hai Phong and on to Pho Chau is not a straight forward journey. It’s easy to work your way through to Ninh Binh and then across to the Ho Chi Minh Road, but most of it is on main roads and fairly busy. You could try to thread some of the smaller backroads together – check your map – but as this is the Red River Delta it’s intensively farmed and populated, so any route you take will probably be quite busy. It’s not the most scenic part of Vietnam, so perhaps it’s best just to take the main roads and get it over and done with.

      Yes, you can do the Hue-Hai Van-Hoi-An-HCM loop but if you want to do it all you will have to double-back once. You can stay of the Ho Chi Minh Road to A Luoi and then continue on the HCM Road to Prao and Thanh My. (Or if you want to go to Hue first, just take the road east down to Hue from A Luoi). From Thanh My head east to Hoi An. Then from Hoi An take the Hai Van Pass up to Hue. How long it takes depends on how many days you want to spend in the cities – but the ride itself can be done in 2 days.

      Sorry, I don’t have any experience selling bikes in Cambodia, but I’m sure it’s possible.

      Tom

  86. Jessica Linderman says:
    November 5, 2015 at 7:24 AM

    Hi Tom,

    Really great site you put together and especially very informative when it comes to the motorbiking. It’s something I’m debating doing. This would be my first time on a bike and I am also traveling alone (female backpacker), thus the hesitation. This route seems great though: very scenic and paved roads. Currently I am in Saigon but I want to work my way up to Hanoi next week. I was thinking of doing the coastal route going north by bus then come December, working my way back down again via the Ho Chi Minh Road on a bike. Any thoughts on going North to South vs South to North? I also figured maybe along the way I might meet some people who would want to do this with me (if anyone reading this is interested please reach out! I’m also open to going South to North but would want to leave next week :)) I also have some questions about purchasing a bike, if you could please reach out via email that would be great. Thanks Tom!

    Jessica

    1. Tom says:
      November 6, 2015 at 1:44 AM

      Hi Jessica,

      I think travelling on your own as a female in Vietnam should not be an issue. Vietnam is still generally a very safe country in which to travel. Just take all the normal precautions you would in any other country.

      I would recommend travelling north to south at that time of year because, in December, the weather in the north and central regions will be turning a little chilly.

      I’m sure you’ll meet other travellers in Hanoi and along the way to join you at least for part of your trip 🙂

      Have a great journey,

      Tom

  87. Noemi says:
    October 11, 2015 at 12:34 AM

    Hi again Tom:-) I’m spending 3 weeks motorbiking in Vietnam in January/February 2016, and my brother will join me for 8 days, so wondering which 5 days worth portion of this trip you would recommend that we could do together (I want to keep 3-4 days for him to visit Hoi An and Hanoi, short I know…). Obviously we also need to get there, and not sure if makes a difference if approached South to North or North to South (I can fly in & out of either Hanoi or Danang).

    Many continuing thanks for this amazing blog, and for your contagious enthusiasm!

    Noemi

    1. Tom says:
      October 11, 2015 at 8:36 AM

      Hi Noemi,

      So are you looking for a good ride around that area (Central Vietnam) or anywhere?

      Tom

  88. Alex says:
    September 21, 2015 at 2:15 AM

    Hi tom,

    Amazing guide we are just about to start this adventure from hcm.

    Couple of questions what bikes would you recommend would be better for backpackers and would you suggest biking all the way from hcm to your starting point or get transport their then start? We were gonna go all the way to Hanoi

    1. Tom says:
      September 21, 2015 at 2:32 AM

      Hi Alex,

      You could take the HCM Road all the way from Saigon to Kon Tum (where my guide begins), but I would recommend taking the ocean roads up to Quang Ngai and then heading west up to Kon Tum on Highway 24, because this is more scenic. Just make sure you stay on the new ocean roads and back roads as much as possible, thus avoiding Highway 1: follow this guide up to Nha Trang, then look closely at this map for the smaller roads between Nha Trang and Quang Ngai (at some points, as you’ll see on the map, you will have to take Highway 1).

      Of course, it also depends how much time you have. If you want to get to Kon Tum as fast as possible then take the HCM Road or Highway 1 all the way, but you would be missing out on some great coast roads. You can also browse all my coastal routes here.

      You can use any bike for this route as it’s all on paved roads. A fully automatic Yamaha Nouvo or Honda equivalent is good, or a semi automatic: both are good, reliable machines.

      Have a great trip!

      Tom

  89. William says:
    September 9, 2015 at 1:05 PM

    HI,
    I found your website so useful! Thanks! I made a video about my trip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0Z9IHZ1ge8

    1. Tom says:
      September 9, 2015 at 4:36 PM

      Hi William,

      Thanks. Looks like you had a great experience. Nice video!

      Tom

  90. Ivar Arash says:
    August 22, 2015 at 3:21 PM

    Hey Tom thanks for this.

    I’m leaving in the morning on my trip from Hanoi to HCM.

    I would love to take the scenic route but like people are saying, no one around for 100 km. What to do if your bike breaks in that place :/

    Drving Highway 1 does not sound like so much fun.

    1. Tom says:
      August 23, 2015 at 6:09 AM

      Hi Ivar,

      I would definitely avoid Highway 1 as much as possible. Don’t worry about break downs – in Vietnam you are never far away from someone who can fix a bike, even if that means knocking on someone’s door in the middle of nowhere. Just remember this word: sửa xe – it means bike repair.

      Have a good trip,

      Tom

  91. Beau says:
    July 29, 2015 at 4:06 AM

    Hey again, figured id report back regarding the condition of the road I mentioned previously. It’s all good! It’s looks pretty newly completed and was smooth the whole way (aside from going through a couple of towns).

    Cheers!

    1. Tom says:
      July 29, 2015 at 4:42 AM

      Hi Beau,
      That’s excellent news! Thanks so much for this valuable update. It’s good to know that riders can now stay on the Ho Chi Minh Road south of Kon Tum without having to deal with roadworks anymore 🙂
      Tom

  92. Beau says:
    July 10, 2015 at 6:49 AM

    Hey Tom! Really liking your site. Full of some really great information and has been super handy on our trip so far.
    Just wondering if you have an experince on the Ho Chi Minh road south of Kon Tum to Saigon? I really enjoy the inland roads and mountains. I saw the route on your map cuts out to the ocean after that. Is that because its a nicer ride along the ocean roads?
    Cheers!

    1. Tom says:
      July 10, 2015 at 11:48 AM

      Hi Beau,

      The Ho Chi Minh Road south of Kon Tum is nowhere near as scenic as the central and northern sections – it follows two relatively boring plateaus. Plus, road works on that section have kept most riders away for at least the last year. However, it’s been a while since I’ve ridden that particular section, so perhaps it’s worth a go. If you’re in Kon Tum now then it’s worth asking at your hotel or something to see what local people think.

      Highway 24 from Kon Tum to Quang Ngai is great. Then you have to stay on Highway 1 for about an hour and a half before turning off at Tam Quan for lovely coastal back-roads to Quy Nhon and beyond. If you haven’t already, then zoom in on the relevant areas on this route map. Click the yellow stars for links to my guides to the coastal back-roads, particularly south of Nha Trang. Or if you want to head back up into the mountains, the road from Nha Trang to Dalat is good.

      Have a great ride,

      Tom

  93. Timesh Pillay says:
    July 8, 2015 at 2:35 AM

    Thanks a lot Tom for a great source of information.

    A friend and I travelled by bicycle from Hoi An to Phong Nha via the HCM west road. A fantastic trip. As you mentioned, there was very little north of Khe Sanh. We were close to deciding to head back to the coast for the last 250km. However! We got a tip-off from a tour guide about a place to stay in Thuong Son (marked as Long Son if you zoom in enough on google maps), about 135km north of Khe Sanh.

    Sure enough, a rudimentary hostel was there, in the beautiful village. It was pretty clean. The owners seemed surprised to see us. And the building was distinctly empty. There was no food in the hostel itself but a few places to get rice and pho in the village. We were charged 300,000 VND for the room. The best food was turning left out of the hostel, and left again at a sign for food up a track to a house with a large terrace.

    For other cyclists’ sake, we didn’t end up going by the HCM west all the way from Thong Son to Phong Nha since we predicted no opportunity for food or drink north west of Rinh Rinh (fork in road and river 25km north of Phong Nha). We turned right at this split and joined the HCM east instead, then retraced the HCM west from Phong Nha as far as we dared.

    All hugely recommended, especially the 135km north from Khe Sanh to Thong Son!

    1. Tom says:
      July 8, 2015 at 2:51 AM

      Hi Timesh,

      Thanks for the useful tips – I may well stay at that guest house next time I’m riding the Western Ho Chi Minh Road. It’s good to know that there’s now some accommodation in that remote, isolated and beautiful part of the country. I still like camping on that section though 🙂

      Glad you enjoyed your bike trip so much.

      Tom

    2. Billy van Graan says:
      September 25, 2022 at 1:10 PM

      What road did you take to cycle out of / into Hanoi?

      1. Tom says:
        September 26, 2022 at 10:18 AM

        Hi Billy,

        Please zoom in on the map for this guide – you will see the route in/out of Hanoi.

        Also, this guide might be useful to you.

        Best,

        Tom

        1. Billy van Graan says:
          September 26, 2022 at 2:30 PM

          Tom,

          Thanks for the reply.

          Timesh cycled so was wondering about that specifically. What I really want to know is if cycling out on the CT08 is an option because I see there are roads next to the CT08 called ĐL Thăng Long. Can I cycle here?

          Or should I just go on the AH13? (which looks pretty wild from the street view images).

          Any other suggestion?

          Billy

          1. Tom says:
            September 27, 2022 at 3:30 AM

            Hi Billy,

            Yes, CT08 and ĐL Thăng Long are the same road: in this particular case, the ĐL is just the motorbike, bicycle and access lane – so if you’re on two wheels, you will be in that lane anyway.

            In general, I much prefer this CT/Thăng Long way out of Hanoi because the traffic is usually lighter than AH13 and the road is more modern. However, road conditions are constantly changing in Vietnam. Also, I’m sure there are other alternative back-road options, but I’m not aware of them so I can’t advise.

            Personally, on a bicycle, I’d suggest starting somewhere else – out of Hanoi – in order to avoid the long, polluted crawl out of the city.

            Best,

            Tom

  94. Fiona says:
    July 1, 2015 at 1:50 PM

    Hey Tom,

    Just a question re the day 4 part of this trip, Im so keen to do this but just concerned if anything happens to my bike as Im travelling alone, I assume there is no chance of finding mechanics on this road?!

    Thanks for your help!

    1. Tom says:
      July 1, 2015 at 2:01 PM

      Hi Fiona,

      There are people and houses here and there. And because it’s so remote, most households double as mechanics/gas stations, so if you get into real trouble just ask the first person you come across and chances are they’ll be able to sort it out.

      I hope you enjoy this fantastic route.

      Tom

  95. David says:
    May 23, 2015 at 5:18 AM

    Hey Tom,

    Thank you for this post. My girlfriend, good friend and I used your guide to take the HCMH West from Hoi An to Hanoi mid April. I’ve been traveling for the last 2+ years and the week on the bike to Hanoi was probably the highlight of my whole trip. I’m still in awe of the roads, the mountains, the karsts, the people and the adventure. Thanks again for bringing this ride to my attention.
    We still have the bikes in Laos and hope to sell them soon in Ving Vieng or Vientiane. The roads and views rival that part of Vietnam, but it’s much harder and more expensive to fix the bikes and get parts. Still a great time though.

    Best,
    David

    1. Tom says:
      May 25, 2015 at 1:57 AM

      Hi David,

      Thanks. I’m happy to hear motorbiking in Vietnam was a highlight of your massive global adventure!

      Yes, I’ve heard only good things about Laos for motorbiking. I was there in 2004 so it must have changed a lot since then.

      I’m sure you’ve already heard of the Midnight Mapper, but if not Google him immediately – the whole of Laos mapped for motorbikers!

      Enjoy the rest of your travels.

      Tom

  96. Kez says:
    April 12, 2015 at 7:43 AM

    Hi Tom,
    Thanks for your incredibly useful guide. We’ve just ridden HCM road starting at Phong Nga and turning east at Thanh My for Hoi An. Here are some trip notes people may find useful:

    1. Phong Nga
    Yr right – it is touro madness with mediocre foods. But get up early and grab some Banh Mi rolls being made in the street. Also bought cooked corn and pineapples from local market and that set us up for the ride to Khe Sanh. We stayed at new hotel Kach San Thanh Phat across the road from Easy Tiger.

    2. Connector road down to HCM West from Phong Nga:
    This is a great 21k section of road that spits you out at a 4 way junction. it’s well signed turn left to Khe Sanh 223kms & yr on yr way.

    3. The road to Khe Sanh on HCM West is awesome:
    Yep you were right there! We saw no one and nothing for at least 100kms. It’s very peaceful.

    4. Staying in A Luoi
    The Thanh Quang was definitely a brilliant guest house – the lady who runs it made us very welcome and our bikes secure at night.

    5. Ride from A Luoi & stay in Thanh My
    The ride on this section was SENSATIONAL. The only thing on the road was cow poo.

    Eat lunch in Prao – there’s a family noodle place on rhs as you ride through, their soup and noodles were great and that made a good coffee.

    The ride from Prao to Thanh My – get ready, it’s 50kms of pure cornering clinic! Vietnamese road engineers Australia needs you! Road conditions are so good but take it easy last few ks into Thanh My.

    There are guest houses in Thanh My, we stayed at a brand new one on the left as you ride into town.

    Like Tom says, embrace the guest house, they’re great! They looked after us heaps better than hotels.

    Google translator:
    Works great from English to Vietnamese but Vietnamese people told me its a shocker the other way around.

    For 2700ks across Vietnam it helped us a lot though, installing the Vietnamese keyboard on my phone was incredibly helpful.

    Enjoy!
    Regards
    Kez

    1. Tom says:
      April 13, 2015 at 1:07 AM

      Thanks, Kez.

      Happy to hear you enjoyed the road trip. It certainly is one of the best rides in Vietnam.

      Thanks for the feedback and other tips.

      Tom

  97. bas says:
    March 31, 2015 at 6:47 AM

    Hi
    Thank you for this, very well writen en perfect guidance.
    Really enjoyed the trip too 🙂

    ps towards Phong Nha you’ll find people selling fuel from the barrel.
    Best, Bas

    1. Tom says:
      March 31, 2015 at 9:43 AM

      Hi Bas,

      Thanks. I’m glad you enjoyed the trip. And thanks for sharing the valuable information about the fuel too.

      Tom

  98. Michiel says:
    January 22, 2015 at 5:30 AM

    Hi Tom,

    Just wanted to thank you for your amazing blog! Just plowed my way through highway 17 from Ea Drang to Pleiku. Mostly under construction right now, but that makes you appreciate the good bits even more! Thanks to your extensive coverage of the ho chi min road. I can’t wait to experience this delight from Kon Tum onwards!

    Thank you,
    Michiel

    1. Tom says:
      January 23, 2015 at 12:55 AM

      Thanks, Michiel.
      Glad you enjoyed that section despite the road works. You’re in for a treat in the coming days if you’re continuing north on the Ho Chi Minh Road (and if the weather treats you well) 🙂
      I hope you have a fantastic trip!
      Tom

  99. Andrea says:
    January 15, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    Xin Chao Tom!

    Your blog is brilliant! My boyfriend and I are not only your followers online but also on the road!
    We bought two bikes in Hue a few days ago and followed your ‘Ho Chi Minh Road’-Tour from Khe Sanh to Kon Tum. It was amazing! Your blog is hugely helpful and very inspiring 🙂

    We are planning on riding on to Da Lat. Can you recommend a route through the backroads?
    The last 10km towards Kon Tum were on a Highway under construction (only one lane or a bumpy gravelroad with loads of trucks – yuck!!) and we would love to avoid more of this! 🙂

    Cheers,
    Andrea & Raffael

    1. Tom says:
      January 16, 2015 at 3:11 AM

      Hi Andrea and Raffael,

      Good to hear you’ve been having a fun road trip so far.

      Yes, the the section of the Ho Chi Minh Road from Kon Tum south is being upgraded. So it might be best to cut down to the coast and then head back up to Dalat from Nha Trang.

      From Kon Tum there’s a wonderful road down to the coast near Quang Ngai: Road 24. From here you’ll have to join highway 1 for a couple of hours before getting onto a superb coastal back-road at Tam Quan all the way to Quy Nhon.

      From Quy Nhon take the coastal branch of Highway 1 (very scenic) to Chi Thanh. Here turn east towards the ocean and work your way on back-roads all the way to Vung Ro bay (south of Tuy Hoa). Here you rejoin Highway 1 for the last 100km to Nha Trang.

      Then take the mountain road direct from Nha Trang to Dalat.

      Zoom in on this map to see the coastal back-roads mentioned above.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

  100. Lukas says:
    November 27, 2014 at 2:07 AM

    Hi,

    thank you for the post! It helped a lot to see different Vietnam. We have enjoyed HCM road a lot. And you tips about Homestay was extremely good. We loved it. The only thing we didn’t like so much – it was the rain.. It rained a lot, and clouds hidden the best parts of mountains.

    Thanks again for sharing!

    Lukas

    1. Tom says:
      November 27, 2014 at 5:33 AM

      Hi Lukas,
      Glad you enjoyed the trip, despite the rain. I think some of the landscape on that route is so good that it still looks great even in cloud 🙂
      Tom

  101. JR Woon says:
    October 11, 2014 at 1:55 PM

    Hey man, your guide sounds really awesome. I’m attempting to start my first solo 2 wheeled trip relying based on your really comprehensive and informative guide. I have many questions to ask, so yeah, firstly, may I know how do you reach Kon Tum? Do you take a plane to Ho Chi Minh City and then take a bus to Kon Tum? Also, how do you exit the country from the last checkpoint, Pho Chau? Do you take a bus to Hanoi and exit from the Airport at Hanoi, since its nearer?

    1. Tom says:
      October 12, 2014 at 1:43 PM

      Hi,
      Thanks for your comment. I have replied to you by email. Check your inbox.
      Thanks,
      Tom

      1. aksika says:
        April 20, 2016 at 3:30 AM

        Just found your awesome biking guide in Vietnam, thanks for sharing that 🙂
        A quick question: I am going south on the HCMC which road do you suggest from Kon Tum to Nha Trang?

        1. Tom says:
          April 20, 2016 at 4:12 AM

          Hi Aksika,

          You can take Highway 19 or 26.

          Highway 19 goes to Quy Nhon on the coast and from there you can take the coastal back-roads and Highway 1 to Nha Trang: this is a good choice if you have at least a couple of days to ride from Kon Tum to Nha Trang. (For the best coastal route from Quy Nhon to Nha Trang zoom in on the relevant section of this map).

          Highway 26 is the most direct route – you could ride it in one day if you wanted to.

          I hope this helps,

          Tom

  102. william churchill says:
    September 28, 2014 at 3:47 AM

    Too old to drive a motor bike (never driven one either). Any other means to take tis wonderful trip? Please sed copy or reply to email address also.

    1. Tom says:
      September 29, 2014 at 12:12 AM

      Hi William,
      Yes, you could do it by car. Either rent a car in Hoi/Danang or hire a driver.
      Tom

      1. Sela Yair says:
        February 10, 2016 at 5:13 PM

        Is there anyone will hire a car? Using google I couldn’t find anyone.

        1. Tom says:
          February 11, 2016 at 5:34 AM

          Hi,

          Yes, you can hire a car and driver from most hotels in large towns on the Ho Chi Minh Road – such as Khe Sanh, Kon Tum, Xuan Son (Phong Nha) etc.

          Tom

  103. Anhtoan Nguyen says:
    August 17, 2014 at 5:28 AM

    Have you ever made a trip out to the border of Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia? I recommend it especially its only 30 minutes West of Plei Can (Where you head north near Kon Tum). Definitely the most scenic part of anything I’ve done in Vietnam. although I have yet to motorbike the north part of Vietnam. Google maps won’t show all routes that can be taken once you hit dirt roads. You will have to use Bing maps for more details. There is one route that is completely paved however, it lacks most off the scenery until you get to the top. Most of the other routes will be dirt and on the ridge line of the mountains as you bypass locals carrying sugarcane across the borders to make some extra money. Be warned you most likely will encounter few people. Even less than the HCM Road West.

    This link wasn’t when I went but some other people. The don’t have an pictures of anything scenic like there should be. Lots of rolling hills and beautiful country side. The do have pictures of the survey stone to mark the junction of the three countries. It also looks like they took the non-scenic road when it was still under construction. http://me.zing.vn/zb/dt/ktringotngaolalanohssiw/13916487?from=tag

    1. Tom says:
      August 18, 2014 at 1:17 PM

      Hi,
      Yes, I actually ended up in that area last year by mistake. However, after an hour I realized I was on the wrong road and turned back around again. I’ll try the paved section next time I get the chance. I tend to stay off dirt roads because my bike is not well-suited to mud!
      Thanks for the tip!,
      Tom

      1. Anhtoan Nguyen says:
        October 27, 2014 at 10:19 AM

        I have the same exact bike as you, if you are still rocking the Nuovo 3 that is. You should be fine!

        1. Tom says:
          October 27, 2014 at 10:26 AM

          Yes, still the Nouvo. I’ve had it for 8 years. It’s great.

  104. Donald Capper says:
    August 14, 2014 at 10:27 PM

    Hey Tom,

    Firstly, great site, well put together, informative and well written. After attempting India solo on 2 wheels I gave it up as a bad idea. Here the roads look great though. I became super excited to ride, so much so I searched for a bike in the old quarter here in Hanoi, as suggested by my hotel front of house staff. A rather dodgy looking $300 bike and a around 3 weeks to head south to HCM, using your map. It’s been serviced, I rode it all day to appease my mind before I leave, with one more day to buy a few supplies and plan the route.
    My question here is, do you recommend the ride between Hanoi and the start point on your map? Home stays are my first choice. Guest houses and if necessary, hotels. Do you perhaps have a list of recommend places with contacts I could reach from prior booking and availability? It would be a big help. Lastly, any essentials you recommend to take along?

    1. Tom says:
      August 18, 2014 at 8:35 AM

      Hi Donald,

      I definitely recommend the route on my map – I think it’s the best possible motorbike route between the two cities in terms of scenery and avoiding traffic and main roads.

      There are guest houses all along the route in towns and villages – just look for signs saying ‘nhà nghỉ’. Homestays are more difficult to find. You don’t need to make reservations for the guest houses – just try to find one at the end of each day.

      Essentials – well, make sure you bring a good rain coat! A full rain suit (coat and pants) is best as it’ll keep you completely dry even when driving through storms. Also bring plenty of big plastic bin bags to put your luggage in during any rain.

      Have a great trip!

      Tom

  105. Tom says:
    June 24, 2014 at 3:19 AM

    Hi Shelia,
    Between October and January will still be OK. In October you’ll probably still get some rain and towards January the temperatures in the mountains can get quite cold.
    Do you mean 10 days to get a motorbike licence? The majority of travellers don’t get a licence when they drive a motorbike in Vietnam, they just rent a bike and go.
    Hope you have a great trip.
    Tom

  106. sheila lowe says:
    June 22, 2014 at 2:25 PM

    Another question?-does it really take 10 days to get a licence?We would be coming from Goa india,hoping to have just a short stay. Can you not apply in advance?

  107. sheila lowe says:
    June 22, 2014 at 1:54 PM

    We would like to do this trip but could only make it during Oct to late Jan. would the weather be suitable?

  108. Mike says:
    April 7, 2014 at 1:15 PM

    Thank you so much for this guide, I would never have done this trip without this website. I never would have even known about it.
    I am writing this from Khe Sanh right now. I just wanted to let you know I found a new hotel that must have been built recently bc it super modern w/ flat screen TVA in every room and only $10 per night. Much better than that “miserable” hotel you recommended for $15 I’m sure. The name is Khanh Phuong Hotel if you want to edit your guide.
    Thanks again

    1. Tom says:
      April 7, 2014 at 2:23 PM

      Great, thanks Mike. I’ll definitely give that hotel a try next time I’m in Khe Sanh. I hope you enjoy the next bit of the ride on the Ho Chi Minh Road – it’s one of my favourite parts of Vietnam.