Saigon to Hanoi: The Scenic Route

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Me (left) & Sam (right)

Eight years ago I came to Vietnam to do a TEFL course in Saigon (Ho Chi Minh City). On the first day of the teacher training course I met lots of new and interesting people. One of them, Sam, became one of my closest friends. Sam left Vietnam after 7 months, but now he’s back for three weeks to finish what he started eight years ago: riding the length of the country on a motorbike: Saigon to Hanoi!

Our journey will be just shy of 2,500km. The vast majority of the roads will be quiet and scenic: from dry, sandy, coastal back-roads in the south, to meandering mountain passes in the central provinces, and the increasingly famous limestone landscape along the Lao border on the Ho Chi Minh Road, near Phong Nha Ke Bang National Park. Only 200km of the entire route will be on the notoriously dusty, dirty, and busy Highway 1: most of the time – if all goes according to plan – we’ll have the roads to ourselves.

I’ll be adding photos to this post over the next couple weeks as we make our way from Saigon to Hanoi. You can also follow our road trip on my Twitter, Facebook and Google+ pages, where I will be posting updates, photos and videos along the way. Below are a map of our route and a video of some of the places we are going to see. (Thanks go to the ever-efficient staff at Rent a Bike Hanoi for providing us with one of our bikes).

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ROUTE MAP:

Key:

– CLICK on any of the PINS to see a PHOTO and DESCRIPTION of the place it marks

– RED PINS: some of the bigger towns and cities on the route

– BLUE PINS: scenic spots and places of interest

– GREEN PINS: places I’ve written guides to on VietnamCoracle.com and links to them


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PHOTOS:

Saigon | The Coast | The Mountains | Hanoi

Saigon: 1-3 Aug

Finding a helmet that fits isn't easy!
8 years of waiting for that hit of Vietnamese caffeine: strong!

 

Just another lunch in Saigon

 

Reunion: meeting up with old acquaintances
A bit of tennis in the sunshine

 

Searching for some 'pick-me-up' herbs for our long journey, in Saigon's Chinatown
1-2-3 YO!! Last night in Saigon

 

The Coast: 4-10 Aug:

Taking time out on the ocean road
Street food doesn't get any better than this! (Phan Thiet city)
Riding through dramatic storms on the coast road
Breakfast on the street: the graffiti on the wall says 'noodle soup'
Lunch on the rocks on Hòn Góm sandbar: miles of empty beach

 

Sea snails with lemongrass & coriander in Quy Nhơn city
Admiring the view south of Quy Nhơn.
Delicious little bánh bèo rice cakes by the roadside in the countryside
Sam's birthday present: cocktails by the pool at Life Wellness Resort, Quy Nhơn

 

The Mountains: 11-20 Aug:

View from the first of many mountain passes (Quang Ngai Province)
View from the first of many mountain passes (Quang Ngai Province)

 

Camping on our first night in the mountains, by a river in the jungle
Bathing in the river by our campsite
Bathing in the river by our campsite

 

A warming lunch of 'mountain' food in rainy, misty Kon Tum Province
A warming lunch of 'mountain' food in rainy, misty Kon Tum Province

 

At A Luoi my speedomter reached 100,000 kilometres!
At A Luoi my speedomter reached 100,000 kilometres: took 6 years to get there

 

Fueling up for a day on the road with 3 strong Vietnamese black coffees (A Luoi, Thua Thien Hue Province)
Fueling up for a day on the road with 3 strong Vietnamese black coffees: A Luoi, Thua Thien Hue Province

 

Campfire in the Truong Son Mountains, near the Lao border
Campfire in the Truong Son Mountains, near the Lao border

 

The West Ho Chi Minh Road is spectacular & completely empty
The West Ho Chi Minh Road is spectacular & completely empty

 

Taking it all in!
Taking time on the road to stop & take it all in!

 

Dog meat is very popular in northern Vietnam...and it's delicious.
Dog meat is very popular in northern Vietnam...and it's delicious.

 

Waterfalls offer great massages!
Waterfalls offer great massages!

 

A last goodbye to the mountains at sunset
A last goodbye to the mountains at sunset

 

Hanoi: 21-23 Aug:

Made it! Sam & I after a celebratory run around Hoan Kiem Lake, Hanoi
Made it! Sam & I after a celebratory run around Hoan Kiem Lake, Hanoi
Street food in Hanoi is always excellent: this is Bun Rieu Nam Bo
Street food in Hanoi is always excellent: this is Bun Rieu Nam Bo
Sam bids an emotional farewell to his bike (The Red Growler) in Hanoi
Sam bids an emotional farewell to his bike (The Red Growler) in Hanoi

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VIDEO:

A montage of scenery & sights on our route (for more videos from our trip click HERE):

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125 Responses to Saigon to Hanoi: The Scenic Route

  1. Mark says:

    Hey, you say that your friend came back to Vietnam to finish what he started. Does this mean he failed the first time? Or did he come back and pick up where he left off?

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  4. Gavin says:

    Hi Tom,

    Website has been very helpful, originally with my 27 day trip i planned to do 10 in Cambodia but now im thinking do all of it in Vietnam by bike and skip Cambodia, especially since i go from Jan to Feb through the spring festival so i think it would be good for me to shack up somewhere for a few days over that and take my time with the whole trip. Unless you have any alternate suggestions, maybe you think I could do both? I start HCMC finish in Hanoi 27 days later but would need days either side to buy and sell bike.

    Unfortunately none of your maps work on my computer. When i click them and sign in google says ‘admin.google.com is for G Suite accounts only. Regular gmail accounts cannot be used to sign in to admin.google.com.’ Dont really know that that means but maybe its down to me being in China and having to use a VPN, could you please privately email me all of your recommended routes if its not too much trouble: [email protected]

    Secondly, how easy are road signs to follow in vietnam? are they numbered or are they in vietnamise which would be more difficult to follow.

    Any maps you recommend buying beforehand?

    Weather across Jan- Feb looks dry and mild, so just some warm clothing for on the bike?

    Also any apps you recommmend for any aspect of being in Vietnam but particularly for maps, as i saw previously you mentioned google maps is not perfect.

    Thanks in advance
    Gavin

  5. Nynne Munk says:

    Hey,

    Awesome post about your trip – sounds absolutely amazing! I’m planning on doing the same trip from December 21st till January 13th – do you think that would be fine for a timeframe? Also, I really wanted to spend a couple of days at Ha Long Bay, but don’t know if I can fit it into the trip – would that require extra time, or do you think it’s doable? Last question – do you know if there are any particular places to find a travel buddy? I don’t mind doing parts of it alone, but would also like company (especially if the bike breaks down and I panic ;) ).

    Thanks for all your advice!

    Nynne

  6. Charline Moreau says:

    Hello!
    Thank you so much for the info and your posts!
    In december during christmas and NYE I plan to do a motorbike ride in the south of vietnam, wanting to start from Da Nang/Hoi, ride to Saigon, maybe explore some outlaying islands if I have enough time and take my return flight directly from Saigon
    Is there any possiblity to give the bike back in Saigon??
    Also, I am a girl and 24 years old. Do you think it is an issue to travel alone? I will make overnight stops at backpacker hostels most probably.
    Any recommended routes along the coast?
    Thanks a lot for your help in advance!
    Charline

  7. Luke says:

    Hi Tom,

    Very impressed n interested these your trail stories, also I have a plan to motorbike trip during 10days from HCMC till Hanoi.
    Every your pictures makes me happy and fun.
    Is it possible to ride this trail within 10days? I’m opened with any your tip or comment.
    I’m really lookin forward to flight Vietnam on next week. XD
    Thanks for these your stories.

    Luke

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  9. Alex says:

    Nice Layout Tom.
    Gonna Be In Vietnam from Sept 20-0ct 25
    Considering doing your Classic Route.
    Just wondering how weather will be riding this time of year.
    Foresee any problems?
    Any suggestions would be appreciated.

  10. David says:

    Hey Tom
    Just started to look into doing a road trip from South to North Vietnam and your blog is a great way to start when it comes to excellent information.I havent had time to read all the comment to see if someone else has asked or not ,but when on your motorbike in the hills and more rural routes how often are there stops to fill up with petrol? I have problems and worry in the Highlands of Scotland sometimes ,is it the same as Thailand/India where there are random stalls with Evian bottles filled up?
    Hope you can help and many thanks for saving me a lot of time.

    Plus answering all of the comments !!! in this busy world so very commendable!

    Cheers

    David

  11. Ross Chandler says:

    Hi Tom,
    This is a great resource. Thank you!
    I’m organising my first bicycle tour for Dec-Jan riding from HCMC to Danang. I’m looking at taking this route. From my research a lot of people have commented that the ride from Dalat to Nha Trang is very nice. I’m wondering if I should head straight for the coast from HCMC as you describe or head North-east first till I hit Danang and then get on the coastal route. Have you done both of these routes?

  12. Nasci says:

    Hi again Tom.
    The recent news about ex-HCMC trains to Da Nang now leaving from Bien Hoa has made me slightly nervous, as I was planning on taking the train, along with my bike on it, back to Da Nang in mid-July after coming down the coast from Da Nang.
    I was wondering if you’ve heard of tix being hard to get bc of the station change, or if you would know when tix for July would be on sale, if there is any system like this for tix?
    Tix for passengers can be bought online in English I see, but I was wondering what can be done to get a tix for the bike ahead of time, perhaps from overseas. I’d be stuck if I was not able to put my bike on the train when I arrive at the station in Bien Hoa sans tix for the bike.
    Any advice?
    Thanks in advance.

  13. Tommy says:

    Hi Tom,

    Thanks so much for all of the information on your website. It is beyond helpful. I’ve been living in HCMC for the past year and have yet to visit the rest of the country so I’m planning the motorbike trip.

    The part I’m unsure about is Pu Mat National Park. I’ve just calculated my route and distance at about 270 kilometers from Phong Nha National Park. I’m using your route from Phong Nha to Pu Mat. Were you able to drive there in one day? And was accommodation available at Pu Mat National Park? I read briefly about Thai or Dan Lai Village on their website, but I can’t seem to find more on it.

    Thanks,
    Tommy

  14. Tom says:

    Great article, thanks for taking the trouble. I am planning to do this next year in two weeks, i see from some other comments that this is do-able providing we are happy to ride every day. Is it generally easy to walk stright into accommodation when you arrive or is it better to try to book the next night’s stay in advance? there will be 6 of us traveling.

    Thanks in advance
    Tom

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  16. Rich says:

    Hey Tom,

    Trip had been fantastic so far, but I have another question for you.

    I’m currently in Hue and want to make it to Khe Sanh to pick up the Ho Chi Minh Road. I know I can take highway 1, but I could also take a more indirect route of rt 49 to the HCMR south of Khe Sanh and work my way north. Is there any reason, aside from the extra hour of travel time, that I might not want to do that (bad roads perhaps)? Is the drive significantly nicer? don’t mind the extra time, just want your opinion on which would be the better route. Thanks!

  17. Rich says:

    Hey Tom

    I’ve been following your route the past few days and it’s been truly wonderful. Thank you so much for all the work you put into the site. Its been my primary resource. I bought the day pass at the Ho Tram Resort and Spa yesterday and really enjoyed it. Unlike anything I could ever afford in the states.

    Anywho, I have a question for you. Right now I’m in Mui Ne. Do you think, provided I start at dawn, that I could get to Nha Trang before dark tomorrow and still be able to properly enjoy the beauty of the coast? I’ve read the three guides between the two cities and there seems to be a ton of beautiful spots. If I were to stop for some pictures, a few bites to eat and a dip or two, is getting to nha trang by sundown doable? I lost a few days of my trip due to visa issues, so I’m looking to make up some ground where I can. I have a friend in Nha trang who I’d like to spend 2 nights with while still reaching Hanoi by April 3rd.

    Thanks again for the guides and appreciate any insight you might have.

  18. Pat says:

    Hi Tom
    First of all, thanks for writing such a damn good guide for motorbiking round Nam. Most of the routes you have detailed have made their way into my own 2 month itinerary from Hanoi to HCMC. I’m sure you’ve probably been asked this before but do you know of any contacts in Hanoi that would help us buy a bike for myself and my partner. We are looking for a quality bike but one that won’t break the bank. I’ve had a look at Tigit and other rental companies but they look quite expensive with most of their prices being well over our budget. We were looking more for someone honest and reliable who would for a fee help us in choosing our bikes.
    Cheers!

  19. Tom Randon says:

    Hi Tom,

    Me and friend of mine of travelling around SE Asia in May for 3 months. I’m so excited to be undertaking the route around May time and it took some convincing for my friend to try this adventure but I think you’ve convinced him just as much as me. We’re looking a buying motorbikes in Ho Chi Minh and riding along the same route as you towards Hanoi. As we are backpackers, ideally, we wouldn’t want to be carrying additional weight such as tents etc.

    Along this route, is there a variety of places to stay overnight or is buying a tent recommended? Would 3 weeks be enough time to undertake this journey but also explore places such as Mui Ne, Halong Bay and Nha Trang?

    Any additional advice would be extremely helpful.

    Thanks,
    Tom

  20. JT says:

    Hey, I’m going to vietnam and looking for a way to ride a motorcycle from HCMC to Hanoi. Ill be going from the 20th of March to the 10th of April. Was wondering if two weeks is enough time plus a couple days extra just in case. My flight leaves from HCMC so I would like time to get back. Do you recommend flying back or train back? Is it possible in that small time frame /w sightseeing as well?

  21. Jeremy Kemp says:

    Hey Tom!

    Some friends and I are planning on doing a trip similar to yours this May-June. Rent-A-Bike Hanoi seems to only have pickup locations in Hanoi and in Da Nang. How did you get yours in HCMC? Any other advice for doing this kind of trip during that time of the year?

    Thanks!
    Jeremy

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  23. Melissa Buluran says:

    Hello! Thank you so much for all your advice and stories you’ve been posting. It’s been helping my journey through vietnam a lot. Do you have any recommendations as to where to stay between hoi an and kontum?

  24. Inge says:

    Hey! Good website.

    I was wondering if you can help us.
    Me and my friend buy 2 yamaha nouvo.
    We are looking for a map for motorbikes/ scooters and that we can avoid the highway 1.
    We have 6 weeks for vietnam and cambodja. And 3 weeks for Myamar.
    Can we take the scooters with us to MM?

    Please let me know.

    Greetz Inge and Chrid

  25. Sven and Marvin says:

    Hi Tom,
    me and my son Marvin are just back from “The Scenic Route”.
    We made it from Hanoi to HCM City and it was amazing!!
    Thank you so much for inspiring us to this great adventure and for your great and helpful posts.

    Sven and Marvin

  26. Jame Ng says:

    Great trip guys, I’m doing HCM to by motorbike in 1 weeks time, anywhere I can see specifics of your route? Im mainly looking for a rough idea of the time taken between each place you visited.

  27. Stefan says:

    Hello,
    I did the loop in the north today and it was terrible.

    I drove 40 km or something like that in mud. And nothing else. Maybe the road was better when you where there.

    On your map it’s the loop where the second green pin is placed if you see it from hanoi.

    Maybe good to know for everybody who wants to do the trip soon.

    Very nice website by the way, very useful and good writing.

    Thank you very much for that.

    Cheers Stefan
    The Netherlands.

  28. German says:

    Hi great advise , doing Saigon-Hanoi solo starting today, once in Hanoi I will intent to cross into Laos and Cambodia, and back in Saigon I have spare 3 months for this trek, any advise? security? crossing the border? thanks
    German

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  30. Joe says:

    Hi Tom,

    Thanks for your post, me and my friends are planning on doing the same trip by motorbike in June/July. We’ve given ourselves about 5 weeks to do the trip.

    Firstly I was wondering whether it was possible to do the whole route you did, but never go on the highways? We want to stay off them as much as possible.

    And secondly I was wondering whether as we are going to be there for longer, whether there was anywhere extra you would recommend us to go visit?

    I think we are going to try and camp as much as possible, your post has really inspired us and is basically everything we want to do. Any tips would be much appreciated.

    Thank you very much,

    Joe

  31. Mark Burgess says:

    Im going to throw yet more praise in your direction Tom. Class mate, thank you very much. EVERY question I have has been answered exploring the ‘links and crannies’ of this article.

    Im arriving for my trip on the 6th Nov and staying for a month, a little loop of the south to get a Phu Quoc island visit in and then once ive found my bike im off to follow in your foot steps with a detour to get a suit from Hoi An and a ill be finishing with a few days exploring Ha Long Bay. Sell the bike and either fly back down to HCM or catch a train.

    Thank you for the inspiration chief.

  32. Colin says:

    Hi Tom
    I came across your blog and thought about cycling from HCMC to Hanoi, reading about highway 1 makes the adventure sound suicidal but was wondering if I could use the coastal roads all the way ?? Is the Ho Chi Minh highway advisable on a bicycle ? Your scenic route seems pretty good to me ! I’m planning 2 months to do it and arrive in HCMC beginning of march, what do you think ? Any advice is welcome , thankyou

  33. Arthur says:

    Hi guys,

    This is the Holy Grail, I could have not hoped for a better inspiration.

    Here is my custom version inspired from yours, just few additions.

    https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zEoA-O9bYgfw.kJjUmgkbTUxU

    My questions:
    – Planning to do it Mid November to Mid December. Is it doable weather wise in that period?
    – Do you reckon a month is enough to do your route + the extras?
    – How much can we expect to pay and where could we buy the motorbikes in Saigon?
    – What do you reckon should be a budget for 2 for the month?

    Thanks a lot!

    Arthur

  34. Holly says:

    Hello :)

    Have found this very helpful with our journey so far! Thank you!

    We are currently in hue city and riding up to dong hoi for some caving adventures. I was looking at the route you took from Phong Nha up to Hanoi and was wondering if there are roadside hotels/small towns for accommodation? I would much rather take this route than the coastal roads if possible.

    Let me know, thanks. Holly.

  35. Andrew says:

    Hi,

    I was just wondering what the purple lines as opposed to the blue lines were indicating? Just an alternate route?
    Also,
    If I was to go the route of buying a used bike in HCMC, and selling in Hanoi, is there any suggestions you have for finding a decent bike?

    Thanks,
    Andrew

  36. john doe says:

    Very helpful post and blog. I have been thinking about a similar trip. I ride motorcycles here in the states. Do you think 3 weeks is enough time for me to do the HCMC – Hanoi trip? I plan on buying a flight into Saigon and a flight out of Hanoi and winging it; using your map as a reference…

  37. Jonas Egli says:

    This looks awesome!
    I’m also planning to do the same with my friend from north to south.
    But imt worried about not having a vietnamese driving licence so my insurance wouldn’t pay me if i’d have an accident. How did you manage this?
    Thank you for answering

    Best regards
    Jonas

  38. Dan says:

    Hi Tom!
    I’ll be in Vietnam next month, flying into Hanoi May 9 and out of Ho Chi Minh City on June 8. I’m traveling solo and am planning on buying a bike and riding north to south. I would love to spend some time in the north before heading south but I’m not sure if I would have enough time to do both considering I would have to buy and sell the bike in this timeframe. I am not trying to overplan anything at this point as I don’t know what to expect, but I’m looking for some recommendations! I would be open to doing a tour in the north before buying a bike, or seeing the north by bike and then taking a train with my bike from Hanoi to a spot further south in order to stay on schedule. What do you think? With my time frame, what should be my priorities and must-see spots? Also, any info on where to keep/lock up the bike at night. Thanks!
    -Dan

  39. Imran Hawkins says:

    Hi!

    This looks awesome! Me and my brothers are planning on travelling by motorbike from south to north and we have 5 weeks.

    I am thinking of doing this route and staying off highway 1 as much as possible.

    Out of interest, did you camp out of necessity? Or would we be able to find places to stay along your route?

    Thanks!

  40. craig says:

    Hi!

    That route looks fantastic. Brilliant write up.
    One question…did you have to take extra fuel when you went through the mountains, ie in bottles, or was fuel easy to come by?

    Cheers bud

  41. Martin says:

    Hi!

    That’s a really awesome travel report, really very helpful. I am planning to do a similar trip from Hanoi to HCMC with my girlfriend, starting next Monday the 9th of Feb 2015 and leaving HCMC by plane on the 1st of March.

    I plan on using your travelogue and map as an info resource during the trip. Do you think google maps will work on my phone (with a Vietnamese card) in Vietnam?

    Cheers!

    Martin.

  42. Tue says:

    Hey Tom,

    I’m currently planning a solo trip through Vietnam. This page has been really helpful in mapping my route. I was just wondering if you had an estimate on how much you spent total (gas, hotel, eating expenses), if you don’t mind sharing of course!

    Tue

  43. Barney says:

    A very nice breakdown of the trip I plan on doing in a few weeks time. A few questions, did you take malaria tablets for this trip and how often were you pulled over by police? I’m still debating whether or not to go through the process of converting my UK licence to a Vietnamese one for the trip. Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers

  44. John Mazuroski says:

    Hi,

    thanks for sharing your adventure. My wife and I plan on following the same route for the month of February. However, she would be riding on the back of my pack so we will have to pack as light as possible. Do you still recommend the automatic Yamaha Nouvo or would you recommend another bike due to there being two people on it?

    Do you find it safe camping? Any places in particular do you recommend?

    Did you ever have to pay a bribe for driving illegally? If so, how much should I offer the police?

    Also,do you by chance have a list of the items that are absolutely necessary to bring?

    Thanks again for sharing this and Happy New Years!

  45. Anthony says:

    Hi guys, great ride

    I plan to do similar route with my partner and bags on the one bike. Probably the Yamaha nouve, so you was on highway one more in the south, is there still beach roads whilst avoiding HighwAy 1

  46. Fleur says:

    Great post, very inspirational! We arrived in HCMC today and we are still in doubt if we want to buy two motorbikes and drive all the way up to Hanoi. Our main concerns are the Vietnamese driving license which we don’t have, and our insurance will not cover a thing if we get into an accident somewhere. Any tips, advice or just anything that would make us help to cut the knot?

  47. Lewis says:

    Hi Tom

    Thanks for posting this route it sounds amazing and something I am definitely going to do! Just out of interest how long did it take you?

    Thanks

  48. Pris Li says:

    Hi Tom,

    Amazing trip :) My friend and I are doing the same but in car (we don’t trust ourselves with bikes ;) ). I wanted to know if along the way you encountered communications issues? We don’t speak a word of Vietnamese and we were wondering if stopping in the small towns or villages or on the road side for food would be a bit complicated?

    Cheers,

  49. It’s great story! Thank you so much for sharing the incredible motorbike trip through Vietnam!

  50. Gracia says:

    Hi Tom,

    My friends and I are planning on driving ( possibly hire a car with a driver) from Ho Chi Minh to Hanoi but we only have a week to do this because we have unfortunately already bought tickets to return home via Ho Chi Minh. Any recommendations on places to stay or city to stop by on our way up, or any idea on the cost for the entire week to hire the car and driver?
    Any suggestions would be great, because we haven’t finalized on the driving idea (if it takes too long we might just fly up)

    Cheers,
    Gracia

  51. Chelsy Hutton says:

    Hello, my partner and I are wanting to do this route but the opposite way, do you have any recommendations for places to stop over on the way? any towns we should avoid etc..

    Thanks

  52. Artur says:

    Hey Tom,great job very useful!
    Me and a fried are planning to do basically the same trip ,but we are going trough Laos and Cambodia as well.
    We will be doing a short documentary in each country,my question is : do you know any kind of cultural festivals that happens in the month of May that worths the visit?We rather go to the very traditional ones,the ones that nobody is usually interested… And what’s better,buy or rent a bike?
    Thank you,

    Cheers

  53. alan simpson says:

    Inspiring mate, I live in Vung Tau and I’m planning a cruise up maybe as far as Da nang, but will stay in budget hotels. Yamaha Nouvo, is the bike I had one for three years, one of my all time favorite bikes , “bullet poof”, (135 LX), no fuel injection, just a big carb, two up cruising at 80- 90 km/h with bags, good handling and brakes, cheaper than a honda as well. I now have a 750 shadow, but it’s still manageable and lopes along. thanks for the road tips.

  54. goodwin says:

    hey,

    How much was petrol per day for you guys?

  55. Rocke says:

    How many kilometers would you say it is between Nha Trang and Qui Nhon, and then between Qui Nhon and Kon Tum? We’re planning a trip from HCMC to Hoi An in April, and are planning to follow the first half of this guide. It looks amazing!

  56. Eric Zachanowich says:

    Wow, amazing. Me and a friend are planning on doing the same thing and after seeing ho successful your trip was we are thinking about doing the exact same route. What types of tips can you give us? What bikes should we get? We’re planning on camping like you guys did as well. This is awesome.

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  58. Sam Mather says:

    Second time lucky! Good work, Tom, as ever. See you very soon!

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